Maybe it's time to declare Russia as suffering some sort of psychosis event. This is NOT normal

[ck4829]

While Tetyana Vlasenko lay there seriously hurt, she recalls a Russian military officer saying, “I’m sorry for doing this but we have an order to shoot everything that is moving, and you cannot imagine how many cars like this we have full of Nazis who are trying to bomb us,” Tetyana, 42, told NBC News on Wednesday from her bed in Kyiv City Hospital 17.

Her husband, Roman, 50, and their daughter, Katherina, 16, were also hit in their legs.

The officer’s comments echoed President Vladimir Putin’s accusations of Nazi elements within Ukraine, his stated reason for invading Russia’s western neighbor. Experts have slammed the allegations as slanderous and false.

Tetyana, a former shop worker, said the Russian soldiers she encountered “truly believe that everyone around is a Nazi.” She added that the soldiers “were all terrified,” and she had spoken calmly with them prior to the shooting.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/don-t-know-survived-family-093014932.html

Take away some zeroes from the number of Russians in Ukraine right now, and you know what you have? You'd have a mass shooter screaming about "secret biolabs" that they can not substantiate and giving weird labels to everyone including 16-year-old girls, while they are shooting at unarmed men, women, and children, and what do we call that here? We don't call that war or terrorism, we call that "mental illness" when it happens here over and over again.

Just putting that out there.

[Joinfortmill]

1. I have my doubts

Sounds more like justifying their actions to me.

[ck4829]

2. This has been par for the course though, I have my doubts Russians are rational actors

As in completely irrational, complete disregard to the safety and health of others, bizarre and erratic behavior, etc.

There is a social contagion and Putin is patient zero.

[wnylib]

11. Sounds like MAGAts in the US.

[bif]

14. You beat me to it!

When 40% of Americans support the 400-pound slab of human gristle, that's scary!

[wnylib]

15. See my #12 for more scary.

[gab13by13]

3. Read the Power of Now, by Ekhart Tolle,

the power of evil becomes stronger when it happens in a large group. People in that group will do horrendous acts of evil they would never do by themself. It's not conjecture it's a proven fact and Putin was KGB he understands how to use propaganda.

[ck4829]

4. And we've reached the point where it's become a self-sustaining system and every act of justice

and accountability against these evils will just make the Kremlin justify more and more evil.

[Blues Heron]

5. reminds me of Iraq when everybody there were "Hajis" with "WMDs" in mobile labs

Bush squandered our high moral ground for criticizing this kind of thing unfortunately, with his decades long wars.

[ck4829]

6. It's time to dispose of that cliche. I thought it was also mentally unhealthy the way

we approached Iraq.

The stovepiping, the groupthink, the panic...

The parallels are all the more reason to act like this could be a social contagion, a mass psychosis.

We can't let it become OK.

There were cooler heads in 2003, but they were shouted down and called traitor. Sounds a lot like what is happening in Russia too.

[Blues Heron]

7. It is definitely not normal to be dropping explosives on other people

yet Bush walks free. Mass insanity is exactly right.

[wnylib]

12. Yes, it is as if Bush Jr provided a template for Putin.

Now Putin goes before the UN Security Council to claim bioweapons exist in Ukraine to justify further attacks on Ukrainians.

2003 Deja vu.

[uponit7771]

23. +1, Putin is petulantly using some of the SAME EXACT EXCUSES Bush 2 used to attack UKR

[uponit7771]

22. +1, 100%

[uponit7771]

21. +1, ... we can speak out against evil and not be perfect too. But yeah, Iraq was stupid and Putrid

... is using Bush 2 arguments of WMDs etc to attack Ukraine

[L. Coyote]

8. No, it is time to declare war as an immoral act and make any such aggressikon illegal.

Why do we ever justify war? That is the problem.

Link to tweet

[jaxexpat]

9. The GOP is calling it "Legitimate Political Discourse" when white people do it.

We all might find just how literal they can be.

[Ohioboy]

10. Creating enemies where none exist, it's how atrocities happen

Putin gets soldiers to kill Ukrainians because he has convinced them they are fighting against Nazis.

Trump gets rioters to storm our Capitol because they think they are being patriots.

Q followers think they are fighting against pedophile rings in basements of buildings that don't have basements.

All of these conflicts are unnecessary and only based in perception.

Those promoting such perceptions are the real criminals, and that includes media.

[The Jungle 1]

13. Under the desk.

I am 66 and remember getting under my desk in grade school. We were practicing hiding from russian atomic bombs.
russia was evil then and they are still evil. We need to understand this fact.
They are a filthy evil society that has been backed into a corner by NATO. We will rightfully make the corner smaller.
Remember puketin has 70% support of his people.

[Mr. Evil]

16. Lies and propaganda works.

Just look at Focksnooze (I refuse to properly spell their name). It's their business model and so far, has been quite profitable. Why it is allowed is beyond me.

[Jakes Progress]

18. Then you'd have to lump USA in there too.

It's only percentage points difference between the Russians believing putin and 40% of American believing trump. Do you doubt that the magats would gladly gun down whoever the orange ape pointed them at?

[jcgoldie]

19. We're not the nazis... you families driving around in your cars ...

...in the country we just invaded without provocation are the REAL nazis... thats the ticket!

No puppet no puppet.. you're the puppet!

[marie999]

20. What war has not had these atrocities?

[DallasNE]

24. Hitler Perfected The Big Lie

It never really went away then Trump picked up the ball and ran with it. Putin saw how effective it was, so he reshaped it and took it to the next step, war and nuclear blackmail. And the media play along with the big lie, apparently fearing consequences and so here we are today. How do you call the bluff, if it is a bluff?