Watch CNN's Dana Bash Stop Rob Portman's Keystone XL Lie Dead In Its Tracks

[babylonsister]

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/03/13/watch-cnns-dana-bash-stop-rob-portmans-keystone-xl-lie-dead-in-its-tracks.html

Posted on Sun, Mar 13th, 2022 by Jason Easley
Watch CNN’s Dana Bash Stop Rob Portman’s Keystone XL Lie Dead In Its Tracks


Sen. Rob Portman tried to say that Keystone XL would make up for the Russian oil the US is not importing, but CNN’s Dana Bash gave him the facts.

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Sen. Portman said on CNN’s State Of The Union,

“When the president was elected, he said we’re going to cut off Keystone which is North American energy which is what we’re talking about. That was over 800,000 barrels per day, more than the Russian oil which was 600,000 barrels a day. Second, he issued an executive order stopping exploration on public lands and water. Finally, he’s rewriting this legislation that is now a regulation that has to do with permitting called waters of the United States. All of this is leading to less North American energy production. Specific policy decisions have been made.”

Bash responded:

Senator, a couple of things. On Keystone, I have not seen any report that it would have even been done in time to affect the crisis that’s happening now. It wouldn’t have been done until at least next year. On the public lands you’re talking about, that might be true, that he stopped production on public lands, but the administration has given more permits for drilling on private lands.

In fact, I have a comment from Secretary Granholm saying take advantage of the leases you have, hire workers, get your rig up. Isn’t it true that this is really just because of the pandemic and all of the economic woes and the implications from the pandemic that we’re seeing now and then, of course, exacerbated by Russia?

Portman then shifted gears to the false claim that Biden wants to cut domestic energy production.

Domestic energy production has grown under Biden, but this is a fact that Republicans deny because it doesn’t fit the story that they attempting to sell.

The GOP plan would benefit the oil companies, not the American people.

The truth is that the Republican solution isn’t a solution at all, because the United States does not own the oil in its own ground. The oil is the property of the oil companies once it is extracted. The United States, without legislative changes, can’t tell the oil companies to keep the oil in the US.

Increased US production would add to the supply in the global market, but it would not ease the crisis at home.

Keystone XL is a pipeline, not an oilfield, and it does nothing to increase the domestic supply of oil.

Sen. Portman was lying, and Dana Bash caught him.

[Boomerproud]

1. About fricken time.

Lies Lies Lies

[Maraya1969]

2. Are the oil companies holding back so as to keep supply down and prices up?

[Budi]

3. Keystone Pipeline is privately owned by TransCanada, a foreign Company.

Facts:



President Biden would prefer if oil cos would drill & produce from the thousands of leases they currently hold yet refuse to develop.
When Oil Cos hoard leases, its not about Keystone, Keystone XL or anything else.

[c-rational]

8. Great post - Thanks.

[PatSeg]

11. Thank you

I've saved that, good information.

[bluestarone]

4. She could have said a LOT MORE

When this asshole stated that the price of oil started going higher before the pandemic, SHE should have stated that yea, TFG started oil prices rising!!

[Beachnutt]

5. Oh hell yes, she was too easy on him

there was a lot left for her to say. she could have made a total lying fool of him.
Big oil has over 900 unused drilling permits and much more...

[maxrandb]

17. Thank you for pointing that out

you will here Dana Bash saying; "on public lands, what you said may be 'true'" over 100 times in right-wing media today.

They will frame it as; "see, even the liberal media agrees with Senator Portman".

[Walleye]

6. Won't do any good. You will hear the same lying talking points repeated 10 times just today

[modrepub]

7. It Would Be Nice

If we could get our energy from entities that don't hike prices whenever someone sneezes at the wrong time.

The energy markets and a lot of markets are almost purely crony capitalism. A real market would punish producers who are inefficient and/or price gougers. In a real market other producers would come in and provide their product at a lower price and drive those knuckle heads out.

[SheltieLover]

9. Portman is a qpuke. Lips moving equals a lie. 100%!

He is a real jerk!

[Meadowoak]

10. Not to mention that the keystone oil would go on the open market, likely be sold to China

Or whoever the highest bidder is. Most likely it wouldn't benefit us at all.

[peppertree]

12. Absolutely. It takes oil from Canada to TX, for China - leaving toxic leaks up and down the Midwest

Any country whose leaders agree to such a deal, would be governed by chumps.

[calimary]

13. I hope she came back yet again and corrected him on

Biden supposedly wanting to cut domestic energy production.

EVERY DAMN DOGGONE TIME, their outright lies HAVE TO BE corrected and set straight.

Every time.

EVERY time! Let no lie EVER go unrebutted.

Let NO lie EVER be allowed to stand without challenge, comment, and/or correction.

[maxrandb]

16. They flood the zone with bullshit

Correcting their lies makes you busier than a cat covering its shit on a linoleum floor.

[Warpy]

14. Not only that, but I understand it was to carry Canadian shale oil

to be taken offshore because our refineries can't process it.

It expected us to risk a lot of sensitive land for something that would not benefit us directly. It was just cheaper for Canada to route it through our land than theirs and outfits like Koch Industries were salivating over the profits from the pipeline leases.

It can be argued that while there would be no direct benefit to the US, only a tremendous risk to aquifers that farmers depend on for irrigation, the oil going offshore woul;d take pressure off the international market and keep prices lower. That's a lot of risk for a not very guaranteed benefit, IMO. The section that has been completed has already leaked and proven the risk.

Portman's just another fool in office who's been plied with brandy and Cuban cigars and fed a lot of horse shit until he believed it was caviar.

[jmowreader]

18. There are refineries on the Gulf Coast and Oklahoma that can process it

What was going to happen:

First, the Canadians were going to dig up - it can’t even be drilled for, it has to be mined like coal - even more of the oil sands that constitute the “third biggest oilfield in the world.” They use hot water to wash the sand and dirt out of it.

Next, they would pump this corrosive crap to Oklahoma via Keystone XL. Some would be sent to Texas. Once it was refined they’d ship the gasoline to Gulf Coast terminals, load it on ships and send it to Asia.

Here’s the best part. It costs more to dig this crap up and sell it to China than you get back by selling the gasoline. This might be the reason Trump liked it so much - we would have had to eliminate social spending to pay oil companies the subsidies needed to keep producing this horse shit product.

[Warpy]

20. The idea was easy access to supertanker ports in TX and LA

but you're right about the profits and I doubt we'd have seen a drop of it.

It was perfect for a POS like TFG and the rest of his rotten class, huge profits to them with all the risk assumed by ordinary citizens, and it was an horrific risk.

[stage left]

15. K&R

Republicans need a new lie. They've driven the Keystone XL one into the ground.

[jaxexpat]

19. I want to speak to a particular phrase Portman used

Last edited Sun Mar 13, 2022, 04:10 PM - Edit history (1)

Re: Biden, "he issued an executive order stopping exploration on public lands and water." The term "exploration" needs to be parsed out a bit.

There's drilling, which is a type of exploration which involves a full-on monetary commitment to harvest oil. Its function is to determine the likelihood that additional drilling with additional rigs would be cost effective. It's quite an invasive proposition and whether it produces long term or is abandoned due to non-profitability, it leaves a pretty big footprint. Also, to be considered are the access roads which must be improved adequately to move heavy equipment. They're not just off-road tracks. They're dozed relatively level and often have culverts installed which impact the natural drainage and cause problems because they're not maintained over time. I've seen board roads and staging areas used on flat muddy soils and whereas they are removed when their usefulness is complete, there is still the dozed clearing and inevitable debris.

Then there are other techniques, usually seismic geophysical operations. They're not so invasive and not intended to leave a permanent footprint. But heavy vibroseis trucks or the drilling, placing and exploding of light charges of TNT do leave a bruise. There are, of course, the occasional multimillion dollar lawsuits over property damage caused by these operations as well.

It's disingenuous to use the term without defining the intent. It's the classic "big-oil" double speak, and it leaves the audience intentionally uninformed. It would, on the face of it, seem just mean for Biden to deny people the right to walk out on the public lands and try to find oil. But neither "exploration" technique leaves the land untouched or undamaged.

The real message they're trying to avoid saying out loud is that they don't want to let anyone know what they intend to do. Even though their language is mostly lies and inuendo, they clearly don't mind leading people along, providing an opportunity to reinforce their distrust of any government regulations, especially those designed to regulate the oil industry's impact on the environment and by extension, the society at large.

Oh, and I just remembered it's almost identical "talking point" phraseology the Doochey boy tried to use on Jen Psaki last week.