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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums-- George Orwell, explaining doublethink in 1984.
To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself -- that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/164965-to-know-and-not-to-know-to-be-conscious-of
IngridsLittleAngel
(1,962 posts)Started off as a warning, and has been twisted into an instruction manual.
Doc Sportello
(7,521 posts)Brian Stelter had CNN fact checker Daniel Dale on his Reliable Sources show. Hearing how Russia has tried to use the fake news claim and other techniques got seriously into the kind of doublethink Orwell wrote about. It was making my head spin, which is part of their plan I think. The fascists want chaos, as many have openly admitted. If there are no standards of morality then truth is lies and lies are truth. As in another Orwellian tale, four legs bad, two legs good becomes four legs good, two legs bad.
kpete
(71,991 posts)Tonight Russian state TVs flagship news show tells viewers Russian troops are in Ukraine to stop Ukraine joining Nato, getting a nuclear bomb, attacking Crimea & then southern Russia, ie Ukraine was a threat to Russia. Alternative reality. More of what host Kiselev said 👇
Link to tweet
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andym
(5,443 posts)Obviously works for Putin, since the Soviet Union was a model for 1984 and Putin is ex-KGB, so he knows how to implement it.
orwell
(7,771 posts)...there is a reason I chose this handle twenty years ago on DU.
It was already apparent back then with the Bush II election we had entered the world of 1984.
But now 1984 and Brave New World have joined together in this hall of mirrors and pleasure principal stepchild that we enjoy today as the modern information "metaverse."
So much information, so many opinions, so little wisdom...
Chainfire
(17,537 posts)Comb the libraries, burn the books that do not serve the agenda.
We built this world, we were warned; it is our own damn fault and we will have to live or die with the consequences. We should all be ashamed of ourselves. We didn't tend to the garden of Democracy and the weeds are taking over.
mitch96
(13,904 posts)if you want to know Russia's plans, look at what Russia accuses others of,"
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