WTF is Israel doing?

[Nevilledog]

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Noga Tarnopolsky
@NTarnopolsky
Spokesman for Jerusalem mayor @MosheLion hung up when I asked him to explain why Russia's flag is being displayed on the Old City walls.

Noga Tarnopolsky
@NTarnopolsky
#Breaking: A few yards away from the #StandWithUkraine️ rally, the Old City walls of Jerusalem are lit with the flags of Ukraine AND RUSSIA, the city seal & the prayer "May the one who makes peace in the heavens, make peace for us & all the people Israel"
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11:51 AM · Mar 13, 2022

[dlk]

1. Follow the money...

N/T

[malaise]

20. or this

UNITED NATIONS -- The United States says it was one of three countries to vote against a U.N. resolution condemning the glorification of Nazism over freedom of speech issues and concerns that Russia was using it to carry out political attacks against its neighbors.


The resolution entitled "Combating glorification of Nazism, Neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to fueling contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance," was approved by the U.N.'s human rights committee on Friday with 131 in favor, 3 against with 48 abstentions.

Ukraine and Palau were the other no votes.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-votes-against-anti-nazi-resolution-at-united-nations/


This is voted down every year

[dlk]

28. Nothing is ever simple

N/T

[malaise]

29. My precise point n/t

[dlk]

31. Following the money is usually a good place to start, though

N/T

[malaise]

32. Agree but in this case there are several other factors including demographics

Lots of Russian Jews live in Israel

[lark]

2. Please tell me this was some stupid person and not the government involved.

If the government did this, well, they will be judged as pariahs for it. Hopefully it's just some stupid right wing person and it was taken down immediately.

[paleotn]

4. Their government won't take a side...

in a situation that's morally pretty straightforward. I think they're going to regret not being on the right side of history in this one.

[lark]

6. Israel is a nearsighted disaster who only care about themselves.

I hope they regret this bigly.

[Demovictory9]

3. Hedging their bets

[sarcasmo]

5. The United States government needs to cut off Israel.

[lark]

7. This will never happen, although it should have long ago.

Sadly, they are next to sacrosanct here, which is a total travesty.

[rockfordfile]

9. I'm almost there with you. Somebody needs to answer for this

[OrlandoDem2]

8. The USA has done everything for Israel for decades. Israel needs to pay it forward*

*

[SheltieLover]

11. Yup

[maxsolomon]

10. They're trying to position themselves as the peacemakers between the warring parties.

They're going to say & do things that look neutral.

Someone has to broker a ceasefire.

[secondwind]

12. This is my opinion, also. They want to be able to help get this over with...........

[DavidDvorkin]

13. Rather than consider that possibility

A large contingent on DU prefers to bash Israel whenever possible.

[maxsolomon]

14. TBH, I'll bash Israel - when they deserve it.

This isn't it. Someone has to be able to maintain a neutrality that Putin accepts (although I don't think he plans to stop short of conquering Ukraine).

I can't imagine Israel is taking this stance without the Biden Administration's understanding of it.

[DavidDvorkin]

16. Same here

But see the preceding comments.

[hlthe2b]

18. At a minimum there has been a very discordant & contradictory policy that is giving wide latitude

for a lot of (possibly) "inaccurate" (propaganda) being disseminated in ISRAELI MSM.


Granted the US is facing similar issues with our RW media, but it does make it very hard to gauge their (Israel's) official governmental positions right now.

I take the current reporting with a grain of salt, but I don't think they get a free pass either.

[Behind the Aegis]

36. Like the cleaning of a house...

...it never ends.

--or--

"that train ain't never late!"

[Spider Jerusalem]

19. Honestly, Israel is probably best-situated for that

given Israel's close and cordial if not necessarily amicable relations with both the US and Germany, on the one hand, and with Russia, on the other hand.

[malaise]

15. The world is not made up of US or Western colonies

People make their decisions based on their self interest.

For way too long the West sat by and let Israel enforce apartheid on the Palestinian people.
Many attacked President Carter for calling out that fact.
Israel has been watching the rising Nazi movement in the US and the increasing anti-Semitism across both Western Europe and the US.

[hlthe2b]

21. Yup....

and after years under Netanyahu and his Likudists, I'm surprised at those who would assume Israeli policies to be automatically favorable and complementary to our own--particularly after our own slip into hard RW (Trumpist) policies in recent years.

[malaise]

24. Precisely

There is distrust of and from all sides - sadly very few from any side are promoting democracy and that includes every coup supporter and defender of billionaire rule/rule by oligarchs in the US and everywhere else.

This is not my way or the highway time.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

17. Normalizing a state that invades, occupies and terrorizes its neighbor?

[Clearheadsam]

22. They also reportedly blocked the U.S. from giving Iron Dome

missile receptor system to Ukraine in fear of upsetting Russia. ☹️ https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/03/why-us-wont-give-patriot-interceptors-ukraine/363042/

[AntiFascist]

33. Too bad, this could have saved (and could save in the future) a lot of lives n/t

[dalton99a]

23. "Very fine people on both sides"

[malaise]

25. Remember now that quote was from the US President

defending torch carrying Nazis screaming Jews will not replace us

[Iggo]

27. They don't want it to bite them in the ass...

…the next time they’re shelling Palestinian neighborhoods, maybe.

[Sgent]

30. Israel

has a large population of Russian citizens / former citizens -- large enough to swing an election if issues become big enough. They also have a large, different, population who view UKR with severe skepticism due to pogroms and the Holodomor. In many ways many Jews believe if it weren't for Germany, Ukraine would lead the list of anti-semitic countries of the 19th and 20th centuries.

[AntiFascist]

34. Do they believe the Russian propaganda about denazification of Ukraine? n/t

[Sgent]

35. I don't know

some probably do at least to some extent. I don't live there and I'm not an isolated Yiddish only speaker so it's hard for me to say.