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orangecrush

(19,348 posts)
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 03:32 PM Mar 2022

The 'No-Fly Zone' Test



Many are calling for a “no-fly zone” over Ukraine. Few appear to be grappling with the details required to make it an actual policy proposal. If you’re proposing an NFZ, here are some of the questions you need to answer first:

1. What are the historic cases of NFZ success that you seek to emulate?

2. How will your proposal work differently from the failed versions (Iraq, Bosnia, Libya), which didn’t alleviate most of the civilian harm, nor end the fighting, and ultimately led to participation in the ground war itself?



3. What organization will operate your NFZ? If the UN, how will you get past the certain Russian and Chinese veto? If NATO—whose current unity is a clear Russian target—how to handle the alliance division that it would spark, and likely non-unanimity in approving and then implementing it?

4. Does your proposal call for shooting down aircraft, but not suppressing the ground-based Russian radar, surface-to-air missiles, electronic warfare, and command-and-control units and systems that would endanger the aviators who are enforcing it? If you do propose to attack these Russian targets, what do you expect to happen next?


https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2022/03/no-fly-zone-test/363099/


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The 'No-Fly Zone' Test (Original Post) orangecrush Mar 2022 OP
Excellent questions. "No fly zone" is a political slogan not a strategy. David__77 Mar 2022 #1
People just want Putin to stop. I have yet to hear a rational way to do that Walleye Mar 2022 #2
People want a magic bullet and they think a No-fly zone is it. Chainfire Mar 2022 #3
Thank you orangecrush Mar 2022 #4

Walleye

(30,911 posts)
2. People just want Putin to stop. I have yet to hear a rational way to do that
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 03:38 PM
Mar 2022

“No fly zone” just sounds good. What we really want is a no Putin zone

Chainfire

(17,436 posts)
3. People want a magic bullet and they think a No-fly zone is it.
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 03:39 PM
Mar 2022

They don't want to be bothered with pesky details. They want to second guess their Commander in Chief because he doesn't understand the problem like they do. A no-fly zone equals more war, not less.

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