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I'm becoming convinced that Putin will soon blame TFG (Original Post) intrepidity Mar 2022 OP
Putin knows Trump is just a useful fucking idiot Skittles Mar 2022 #1
The minute Putin realizes that TFG will never be POTUS again, intrepidity Mar 2022 #5
That would be fun to watch. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #2
I hope so. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #3
Yes!!! BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #9
Well, the fact is, what I do is not a bad occupation. Someone is always willing to pay. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #13
HaHa BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #14
Dick Tracy... He was a very underrated detective... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #15
You're killing me BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #16
More to the point. Same genre different character. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #18
. BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #19
Spy Game discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #20
I BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #21
I recommend it. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #22
Yes BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #23
Umm... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #24
LOL BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #25
Well I have to make dinner but a last thought on conspiracy movies. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #26
. BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #27
Thanks to you as well. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #29
LOLOL BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #30
I don't think Putin ever took TFG seriously except as his useful idiot Ocelot II Mar 2022 #4
All of those other factors are, of course, true intrepidity Mar 2022 #7
I agree. One of the many disasters that wouldn't have happened if Hillary had been president Walleye Mar 2022 #12
I would really like to know when was the last time Putin and Trump spoke on the phone to each other Walleye Mar 2022 #6
TFG claims it was recently, if he can be believed nt intrepidity Mar 2022 #8
I'm sure he couldn't help himself and he would have to brag about it,too Walleye Mar 2022 #11
Hopefully we'll start to see furtive looking guys with suspicious-looking umbrellas.. cntrfthrs Mar 2022 #10
TFG is probably still considered a useful idiot, stirring up unrest in the US... AntiFascist Mar 2022 #17
Why? iemanja Mar 2022 #28
I have to wonder usonian Mar 2022 #31
I am more inclined to believe Putin may use Trump to help him doc03 Mar 2022 #32
I can't see that happening any more intrepidity Mar 2022 #34
This would not surprise me LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #33

intrepidity

(7,275 posts)
5. The minute Putin realizes that TFG will never be POTUS again,
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 06:54 PM
Mar 2022

will be when Putin publicly shames him.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,475 posts)
3. I hope so.
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 06:53 PM
Mar 2022

"It will happen this way. You may be walking. Maybe the first sunny day of the spring. And a car will slow beside you, and a door will open, and someone you know, maybe even trust, will get out of the car. And he will smile, a becoming smile. But he will leave open the door of the car and offer to give you a lift."

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,475 posts)
15. Dick Tracy... He was a very underrated detective...
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 07:25 PM
Mar 2022

Ice! The murderer pours water into a .38 caliber mold, freezes it, and keeps it solid until the crime. Then he shoots the guy with the ice bullet. Cops show up, there's just a few drops of water. No bullet, no ballistics.- That's great.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,475 posts)
18. More to the point. Same genre different character.
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 07:31 PM
Mar 2022

Nathan Muir: When I was a kid I used to spend summers on my uncle's farm. And he had this plow horse he used to work with everyday. He really loved that plow horse. One summer she came up lame. It could barely stand. The vet offered to put her down. You know what my uncle said?

Charles Harker: No, Muir, what did he say?

Nathan Muir: He said, why would I ask somebody else to kill a horse that belonged to me?

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,475 posts)
26. Well I have to make dinner but a last thought on conspiracy movies.
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 07:46 PM
Mar 2022

Shooter: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0822854/?ref_=ttqt_qt_tt

You can hire a good lawyer, and I'll call the Bureau.
They can work out some kind of deal. This is explainable. You can prove that you didn't shoot the Archbishop.

I don't think you understand. These boys killed my dog.

Ocelot II

(115,587 posts)
4. I don't think Putin ever took TFG seriously except as his useful idiot
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 06:54 PM
Mar 2022

and maybe the occasional source of classified information. And I don't think it was TFG who made Putin think Ukraine would be a cake walk; it was the combination his own delusions of grandeur along with the members of his own inner circle who were afraid to tell him the truth - just like TFG's own stooges who were afraid to tell him the truth about the election. TFG was just Putin's tool to try to weaken the US and NATO, which ultimately didn't work.

intrepidity

(7,275 posts)
7. All of those other factors are, of course, true
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 06:59 PM
Mar 2022

But Putin, like TFG, are very reliant upon "the blame game" and Trump will be such a delicious target for Putin at some point.

I do believe that TFG played a significant role, wittingly or not, in the circumstances leading to Putin's decision to invade.

Walleye

(30,977 posts)
11. I'm sure he couldn't help himself and he would have to brag about it,too
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 07:04 PM
Mar 2022

Unless Putin changed his number you can bet Trump was calling him

 

cntrfthrs

(15 posts)
10. Hopefully we'll start to see furtive looking guys with suspicious-looking umbrellas..
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 07:02 PM
Mar 2022

hanging around mar a lago...

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
17. TFG is probably still considered a useful idiot, stirring up unrest in the US...
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 07:29 PM
Mar 2022

wait until we start seeing pickup trucks with American flags that have the "Z" emblazoned.

iemanja

(53,012 posts)
28. Why?
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 07:50 PM
Mar 2022

The recent letters released show that the FSB believed the Russians would be greeted as liberators. Putin is blaming the FSB, which is why the head of the agency has been purged.

I don't think Putin is dumb enough to take advice from Trump.

usonian

(9,691 posts)
31. I have to wonder
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 08:46 PM
Mar 2022

I Agent Orange didn't read the intel, could someone have put misleading info in there, knowing it would not be read, but go straight to Putin?

Just speculating.

doc03

(35,295 posts)
32. I am more inclined to believe Putin may use Trump to help him
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 09:00 PM
Mar 2022

find a way to save face. Donald Trump talks to Putin and convinces him to stop the war. He pulls back and Trump gets the credit.
Putin helps get his puppet back in DC.

intrepidity

(7,275 posts)
34. I can't see that happening any more
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 11:06 PM
Mar 2022

There may have been a window, but I believe its been firmly closed.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,919 posts)
33. This would not surprise me
Sun Mar 13, 2022, 09:44 PM
Mar 2022

Like TFG, nothing is ever Putin's fault. Putin has jailed/confined a number of generals but Putin needs a better scapegoat and TFG fits the bill

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