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Why are legislators deciding when life begins? (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2022 OP
They think they're god IngridsLittleAngel Mar 2022 #1
Post removed Post removed Mar 2022 #11
I think you're transphobic IngridsLittleAngel Mar 2022 #23
Jesus told them budkin Mar 2022 #2
Because they can. One of the more interesting artifacts of our version of democracy is that... TreasonousBastard Mar 2022 #3
'lawyers, or their bastard children in government' elleng Mar 2022 #9
I'm not sure where the sarcasm accusation is aimed. TreasonousBastard Mar 2022 #10
NO thanks for designating 'we' elleng Mar 2022 #14
OK, but I didn't mean to insult all lawyers , just that politicians should not decide how we... TreasonousBastard Mar 2022 #17
I thought you were going to say Cheezoholic Mar 2022 #4
We have a pretty diversed Tickle Mar 2022 #12
Becase they and their backers... JHB Mar 2022 #5
Not only that, but If their Teenage daughter or girlfriend or side chick raccoon Mar 2022 #6
The baby would be Tickle Mar 2022 #13
Jewish law says it's at first breath. Lunabell Mar 2022 #7
Jewish religious rights? Surely you jest. Christianity is, of course, a direct descendant of... TreasonousBastard Mar 2022 #15
I'm not sure what you're point is. Lunabell Mar 2022 #25
They heard voices Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #8
Two Things You'll Never Hear A Politician Say modrepub Mar 2022 #16
I know 72 years ago according to my birth certificate it was the day of my first breath Emile Mar 2022 #18
Even if "parents" knew exactly when you're conceived... displacedtexan Mar 2022 #21
Why is it called Birthday? multigraincracker Mar 2022 #19
They won't get money from donors otherwise. LastDemocratInSC Mar 2022 #20
They're representing their constituencies. Mariana Mar 2022 #22
Well, legal personhood is a legislative matter. SYFROYH Mar 2022 #24
 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
1. They think they're god
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 03:38 AM
Mar 2022

Whether it's deciding when life begins, or thinking they have the right to decide what gender a person is, these empty shells of humanity aren't happy if they're controlling and running other people's lives.

Freedom for me, not for thee - the QOP lullaby.

Response to IngridsLittleAngel (Reply #1)

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Because they can. One of the more interesting artifacts of our version of democracy is that...
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 03:54 AM
Mar 2022

lawyers, or their bastard children in government, can now decide questions best decided by argument between scientists and philosophers.

elleng

(130,714 posts)
9. 'lawyers, or their bastard children in government'
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 05:56 AM
Mar 2022

Thanks so much, for delivering this charge to us.


THIS: 'best decided by argument between scientists and philosophers.'

elleng

(130,714 posts)
14. NO thanks for designating 'we'
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 06:10 AM
Mar 2022

'lawyers, or their bastard children in government' with the difficult charge.

Quite correct to say: 'best decided by argument between scientists and philosophers.'

This was/is a 'hotly contested' aspect of Roe v. Wade. And, P.S., Justice Ginsburg, wasn't pleased with it either, but she advocated the 'task' should be handled in the states.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
17. OK, but I didn't mean to insult all lawyers , just that politicians should not decide how we...
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 06:26 AM
Mar 2022

should think. The ones who do carry that agenda have abandoned both humanity and the law.

My father, who went to Fordham U. and their law school, impressed upon me years ago the thinking process of those Jesuit lawyers and why they should be admired.

Cheezoholic

(2,004 posts)
4. I thought you were going to say
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 05:02 AM
Mar 2022

why they are deciding when life begins when at the same time they are deciding when life ends. After all, white men are the ultimate deciders when it comes to life AND death. They are amazing god like figures, to which all must bow to their supremacy. I'm with you and I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF THIS SHIT!!!

JHB

(37,152 posts)
5. Becase they and their backers...
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 05:19 AM
Mar 2022

...really WANT to!

It's a tool to for them to control people in general and women in particular. And they really want to do that.

All else is rhetoric.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
6. Not only that, but If their Teenage daughter or girlfriend or side chick
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 05:32 AM
Mar 2022

Teenage daughter or girlfriend or side chick got pregnant they’d arrange for her to have an abortion in a Tennessee minute.

Lunabell

(6,044 posts)
7. Jewish law says it's at first breath.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 05:41 AM
Mar 2022

Where's the jewish religious rights? Why are the x-tians getting to infringe on the Jews religious freedom? Hypocrites!

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
15. Jewish religious rights? Surely you jest. Christianity is, of course, a direct descendant of...
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 06:17 AM
Mar 2022

Judaism. But so is Islam.

I don't know what Mohammed had to say about it all, but various places in the New Testament Jesus talks about how the old law is dead and he gave us the new law. The new law does not obsess over ritual but is much more difficult-- it depends upon our intent. We no longer have to follow rules, but we actually have to think about what we do.

Not quite the way things have worked out.

Lunabell

(6,044 posts)
25. I'm not sure what you're point is.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:48 AM
Mar 2022

But I assure you that I am not really concerned with religious freedom or anyone's jesus, mohammed, thor zeus etc... It's all the same bullshit to me.

modrepub

(3,488 posts)
16. Two Things You'll Never Hear A Politician Say
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 06:18 AM
Mar 2022

"I was wrong" and "I don't know".

And that's where the problems are.

Emile

(22,460 posts)
18. I know 72 years ago according to my birth certificate it was the day of my first breath
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 06:36 AM
Mar 2022

of oxygen. If Republicans can make something political, they will. Hell they even turned a deadly pandemic into something about partisan freedom.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
21. Even if "parents" knew exactly when you're conceived...
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:49 AM
Mar 2022

Would they gather loved ones together every year and serve cake?

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
22. They're representing their constituencies.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:09 AM
Mar 2022

This is what their voters and their donors want them to do.

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