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skip fox

(19,357 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 08:59 AM Mar 2022

The phrase "political Christians" might wake Evangelicals up!

I saw this phrase used in a reply to a DU post by Keithbnadu2 and think it is brilliant. It is simple, accurate, and to the average Christian's mind, mildly shocking.

When one thinks of the phrase "political Christian" another phrase immediately comes to mind: "true Christian." (Very few would prefer to call themselves the former when the issue is phrased in this manner.)

It's the perfect type of word that could be used to wake up Trumpists and remind them of a Christianity that is not tied to RW politics.

Hell, I can even imagine preachers using it to wake up their flocks to "true Christianity."

(Sometimes a simple and deft use of language can effect fairly dramatic change. In this case it would not be manipulating people like Frank Luntz did with phrases like "death tax," but it would illuminate the issue in a highly beneficial way.))

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Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. They can't be political, Jesus has forgiven them...
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:05 AM
Mar 2022

and they have relationship with God, but Trump doesn't really care.

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
4. Not only that, but I hear, if you follow Jesus and get washed in the blood of Jesus,
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:35 AM
Mar 2022

you can never get the Devil's Covid --- don't need no fuckin' sheeple vaccines.


Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
2. "No man can serve two masters...
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:11 AM
Mar 2022

Matthew 6:24

King James Version

24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
3. They are Trumpvangelicals.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:35 AM
Mar 2022

They are Christians without Christ, and the last thing they want is to be “woke.”

skip fox

(19,357 posts)
7. Don't mistake "woke" for actually casting off misapprehensions.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:12 AM
Mar 2022

They might react negatively to my use of "waking up," but that's just because it uses a knee-jerk phrase.

This doesn't mean they are beyond using critical reason.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
18. Meh. I hope you're right.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 12:42 PM
Mar 2022

My point was that a new nick-name is unlikely to enlighten Evangelicals who voted for Trump and all that he is as "sent by God" while rejecting Obama and all that he is as the "anti-Christ."

Trump got their votes because he accepted Evangelicals for exactly the kind of people they are. When you see him, you see them.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
5. Do you think the Evangelicals care one little bit
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:09 AM
Mar 2022

what anyone else thinks about how they practice Christianity? In their minds, they are right with God and doing God's will.

skip fox

(19,357 posts)
8. The phrase "political Christian" could make them examine themselves.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:17 AM
Mar 2022

If the phrase is associated with liberals, you're right. They'll discount it.

But phrases like this float free of their origins. As the OP maintains, even some ministers who feel their flock has been misguided, could use it.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
10. They'll discount it no matter where it comes from.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:27 AM
Mar 2022

And few Evangelical preachers feel their flocks are misguided. Where do you think so many Evangelicals got the idea that Trump was chosen by God to rule over the United States in the first place? Their preachers told them that. Their preachers are still telling them that. Loyalty to Trump has become essentially a tenet of the faith in countless Evangelical Christian churches.

skip fox

(19,357 posts)
11. Fair point.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:38 AM
Mar 2022

It sounds like you are a political animal. So am I to an extent.

But Christianity only became political for the mass of the RW with Jerry Falwell in the 90s.

Your idea of political Christianity probably dates back further than the 1960s and is likely fully integrated into a belief system. Theirs never was. Politics was grafted on and this became very obvious with Trump. Their politics do not reflect their Christianity like yours probably do.

Their politics are antithetical to their religion, and the phrase might wake them to that fact.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
13. It sounds like you don't know much about their religion
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:46 AM
Mar 2022

if you think their politics are antithetical to their religion.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
17. As a follower of Christ (admittedly a faltering one), I'm called to
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 12:42 PM
Mar 2022

welcome the stranger, support the poor and do the other things on this earth that are required of us all.

Christianity for right wingers is mostly about abortion. It’s been successfully weaponized to divide people and allow the comfortable not to think about what life on this earth really is.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
12. That term seems totally appropriate. But I have little faith it wake up delusional "Christians"..
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:42 AM
Mar 2022

which to my eyes, are what these people are. Delusional and hypocritical.

The so called "Pro-Life" has always been patently clear of blatant and glaring hypocrisy. "pro-life" refers only to the unborn fetus.

Period.

They have zero concern for full term birth, the infant, the child, the teen, or the adult. They have no care for their well being in all that matters (food, shelter, education, safety from violence and abuse) to sustain a healthy life.

They support War, they support Capitol punishment. They are not Pro-Life, that claim or assertion is a lie.

Not every single person who identify as Christian fall into this category, I understand that.

There is just not enough of them speaking out against this lie. There's just not enough of them who care to speak out often and loud.

There's just not enough of them to politically bury these hypocrites and greedy charlatans in the political grave where they belong.

Not enough or just not willing. And so these evil, greedy, racists, misogynists monsters just proliferate on and on.











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