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demmiblue

(36,823 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:44 AM Mar 2022

Manchin says he's reluctant to support the proliferation of electric vehicles





China's dominance of mineral mining and refining is thanks to years of investments and policy that has catapulted the country to become a world leader in less than 10 years. While the US has been slower to build out its EV supply chain, the Biden administration's Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act includes $7.5 billion to develop domestic supplies of key minerals. On March 9, Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm described the matter as a national security concern.

"We have, as a nation, stood by and watched this global free trade environment allow all of our manufacturing and key pieces of our supply chain go overseas," she said during the CERAWeek conference. "It has compromised our national security, our energy security, and certainly our economic security."

"We need to have the full supply chain here," she added.

Manchin also skewered his fellow Democrats' idea to spend billions to deploy EV charging stations across the country. Last year, while Congress was refining the infrastructure bill, nearly 30 House Democrats proposed increasing the bill's $7.5 billion expenditure for EV charging infrastructure to $85 billion. In addition to charging stations, the $85 billion would have been used to build more grid resilience in preparation for an electrified transportation sector.



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Manchin says he's reluctant to support the proliferation of electric vehicles (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 2022 OP
Christ, he is a worthless ignorant POS. CurtEastPoint Mar 2022 #1
I ever knew that our electricity SCantiGOP Mar 2022 #14
+1, He's got a point with supply chain but that's easily solvable with diversifying it. He's bought uponit7771 Mar 2022 #16
My thoughts exactly. Firestorm49 Mar 2022 #26
Not quite prepared to go that far... but it's gettin to that point. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2022 #32
The focus needs to be on the midterms, and winning a majority in the Senate by at least two seats, JohnSJ Mar 2022 #2
Yup. Make SineManchin irrelevant. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #6
And everyone should get a lump of coal. dchill Mar 2022 #3
Fossil Fool lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #4
lol that name made me spit my 3PM Bellini Celerity Mar 2022 #11
Waiting for a battery what does he think they run on "D" cells nt doc03 Mar 2022 #5
Tie it to temporarily reducing ethanol subsidies? Freethinker65 Mar 2022 #7
He always moves the goal post at the last minute. brush Mar 2022 #8
Coalgaslighter who is doing massive heavy lifting in terms of fucking us for the midterms. Celerity Mar 2022 #9
Is he pushing for coal vehicles? spanone Mar 2022 #10
Maybe Manchinema would like area51 Mar 2022 #30
Cars have never run on coal you idiot! Boomerproud Mar 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Boomerproud Mar 2022 #13
Okay, let me fix this once and for all. hamsterjill Mar 2022 #15
x1000 BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #17
His point being BGBD Mar 2022 #18
The path to victory for a cleaner and greener america JustAnotherGen Mar 2022 #19
As much as I'd like to see Gottheimer out of congress, replaced by someone more progressive Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #29
I'd love to see him stay JustAnotherGen Mar 2022 #33
Gottheimer was instrumental in killing BBB by demanding BIF be voted on separately Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #34
I'm taking what he's saying as a great reason why xmas74 Mar 2022 #20
Then help build our on supply chain from reliable sources. nt Samrob Mar 2022 #21
"Can't do this......can't do that" Mad_Machine76 Mar 2022 #22
Manchin is full of coal tar! He will do anything to protect coal mine owners. nt Samrob Mar 2022 #23
He's a total craphead. Must be removed. BSdetect Mar 2022 #24
Pretty sure he does not understand what the future in automobiles is going to be. Ignorant? Selfish 634-5789 Mar 2022 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author demmiblue Mar 2022 #37
Hey, Joe. The electricity needed to charge the vehicles will largely come from coal. Midnight Writer Mar 2022 #27
"reluctance" is his version of COLLINS' "concern"? UTUSN Mar 2022 #28
I think we can use this to elect more Democrats elsewhere. Baitball Blogger Mar 2022 #31
so why not make batteries in WVA? doh! nt msongs Mar 2022 #35
He really is stupid enough to be a repub. Liberal In Texas Mar 2022 #36
In other words, Manchin announces for the fiftieth time what an attention seeking whore he is. nt artemisia1 Mar 2022 #38

SCantiGOP

(13,865 posts)
14. I ever knew that our electricity
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:24 AM
Mar 2022

came here in big container ships from China.
(What a coal-fired dumb ass he is )

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
16. +1, He's got a point with supply chain but that's easily solvable with diversifying it. He's bought
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:33 AM
Mar 2022

... I despise the sell outs

JohnSJ

(92,061 posts)
2. The focus needs to be on the midterms, and winning a majority in the Senate by at least two seats,
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:48 AM
Mar 2022

and a majority in the House.

That should make Manchin irrelevant


lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
6. Yup. Make SineManchin irrelevant.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:50 AM
Mar 2022

Putin may have helped us do that, by showing us what the Russiapublicans have actually been supporting.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
4. Fossil Fool
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:49 AM
Mar 2022

We can eliminate lithium, cobalt, and nickel from the batteries. CATL is already very far along on sodium batteries, which will be far cheaper, safer, and have longer lifespan.

Freethinker65

(9,999 posts)
7. Tie it to temporarily reducing ethanol subsidies?
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:52 AM
Mar 2022

Manchin gets to see more US vehicles use more fossil fuel per fill up AND more corn production goes into the food supply chain instead of producing ethanol (which although cleaner burning, it's production is not so environmentally friendly). Manchin gets richer which is what this is about.
We need alternative energy investment and vehicles.

brush

(53,741 posts)
8. He always moves the goal post at the last minute.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 09:54 AM
Mar 2022

It should be obvious to everyone that we can't keep polluting the evirnoment forever by burning fossil fuels.

EVs are the future.

Celerity

(43,106 posts)
9. Coalgaslighter who is doing massive heavy lifting in terms of fucking us for the midterms.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:02 AM
Mar 2022

Manchin and Sinema have, as of now, blocked over 90% of Biden's new spend between the 2 infrastructure bills, PLUS they are blocking all voter protection/rights bills.

My two gens (I am right on the borderline of Millennials and Gen Z, born within 4 months of the cleavage date) hate him and other fossil fuel shills/profiteers who are helping kill off our future.

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
15. Okay, let me fix this once and for all.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:26 AM
Mar 2022

Manchin isn’t going to support anything that the Democrats want because he gets attention by being a detractor, and that is exactly what his handlers want him to be.

We need to forget about him and move on because he will never cooperate.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
18. His point being
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:40 AM
Mar 2022

That we can't expect to rely on Chinese supply lines for critical components. It's echoing the message from the SOTU to build things in the US.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
19. The path to victory for a cleaner and greener america
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:51 AM
Mar 2022

Runs through
Tim Ryan in OH
*cross fingers* Val Demmings - If they count the votes and don't disenfranchise people in Florida
*cross fingers* Raphael Warnock wins again - if they don't disenfranchise folks in GA
Whoever is running against Ron Johnson
Mark Kelly - if Arizona legislature doesn't declare his opponent the winner
Connor Lamb in PA


At this point - we have to make the GOP completely irrelevant in the Senate.

I've given up all hope for the House just based on my state alone. By not lifting the SALT Cap - I believe my Congressman - Tom Malinowski has lost. Ditto Andy Kim, Mikie Sherrill, and Josh Gottheimer. They don't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning those seats again.

We have to prevent a GOP Senate.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
29. As much as I'd like to see Gottheimer out of congress, replaced by someone more progressive
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:50 AM
Mar 2022

He won by 7-8 points in 2020, so his seat is probably safe.

JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
33. I'd love to see him stay
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 02:20 PM
Mar 2022

I've met Josh, and he's very sincere.


I do not believe - and I'm talking as a Democratic Committee Member in NJ -

That our delegation is going to look the same in January 2023.

The SALT Cap lift (Restoration to 1913 with implementation of modern day IRS) was critical in my door knocking and calls in 2020 in swing voters . . . And I did more than just the 7th.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
34. Gottheimer was instrumental in killing BBB by demanding BIF be voted on separately
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 02:28 PM
Mar 2022

I find it hard to believe that a significant number of voters, let alone swing voters, even know what the SALT cap is.

xmas74

(29,670 posts)
20. I'm taking what he's saying as a great reason why
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:53 AM
Mar 2022

We need to return well paying manufacturing jobs to the US.

Would he change his tune at all if a couple of battery plants wanted to build in WVa?

Response to 634-5789 (Reply #25)

Midnight Writer

(21,712 posts)
27. Hey, Joe. The electricity needed to charge the vehicles will largely come from coal.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 11:27 AM
Mar 2022

You know that, right?

Baitball Blogger

(46,682 posts)
31. I think we can use this to elect more Democrats elsewhere.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 12:23 PM
Mar 2022

Collect all the stupid reasoning from Manchin type Democrats and Republican Senators and turn it into a commercial to show what we can attain if we had more true Democrats in office.

Liberal In Texas

(13,531 posts)
36. He really is stupid enough to be a repub.
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 02:43 PM
Mar 2022

And I guess he won't be buying the new electric Maserati when it comes out.


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