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If Trump had won the 2020 election, Kyiv would have fallen 2 weeks ago.
Just saying, to those who feel that president Biden isn't doing enough.
padfun
(1,780 posts)And he would have given Putin all of the help he might need.
skip fox
(19,356 posts)In fact, he might well have invaded a year earlier.
FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)... and NATO would be in total disarray because Chump would have quit it on the day after his 2nd inauguration.
All we can say now is "Thank you Joe Biden and Thank You Democrats!"
gab13by13
(20,867 posts)what they are going to get living in an autocracy. Republican voters need to see what is happening not just in Ukraine, but what is happening in Russia.
All of the gun humpers better look up the rules of owning a gun in Russia.
I post this to emphasize the right wing narrative that the GQP is pushing now (backed by the MSM) that president Biden isn't doing enough.
Trump came out today and said that president Biden needs to end this war.
Turn on Fox and I guarantee you will see a former military expert just bashing president Biden and proclaiming what he should be doing.
I turned on Fox for 2 minutes last night and that former military expert stated that Putin knows that president Biden is weak, what we need is a president who shows strength to Putin. I only watched for 2 minutes, I can only imagine the propaganda that they spew 24/7.
NBachers
(17,007 posts)gab13by13
(20,867 posts)If people can't see how the narrative is being flipped we are in a world of hurt.
Every damn Republican is a follower of Putin's puppet, CPAC just confirmed that. Internal Putin party (GQP) polling is telling members of the Putin party to back Ukraine and stop praising Russia and Putin, because it is unpopular, not because they believe it.
onecaliberal
(32,489 posts)That doesnt mean Im not enraged by watching genocide. I havent seen anyone saying POTUS isnt doing enough.
gab13by13
(20,867 posts)Plenty of people want to close off the air space, some totally, some partially.
Plenty of people have criticized president Biden for not taking those MiG fighter jets.
Plenty of people criticized president Biden for eliminating Russian oil imports, they claimed it would raise the price of gas.
Not only isn't it president Biden's fault, he has done a fantastic job keeping our allies and NATO united. Last week he got Congress to pass military aid to Ukraine which costs more than Ukraine's entire yearly military budget. President Biden also stated that this new military aid will be shipped to Ukraine in days, not weeks.
Do not interpret what I am trying to say the wrong way. Republicans are trying to flip the narrative that president Biden isn't doing enough. Republicans who voted against military aid to Ukraine are today saying that not enough is being done.
People are prone to propaganda, people here believe that a fence is a wall.
Emile
(21,909 posts)leftieNanner
(14,998 posts)They would just all be rigged like they are in Russia and Belarus.
Oh look! Trump won AGAIN! Imagine that!
jalan48
(13,798 posts)representatives of the people.
lees1975
(3,726 posts)he would have pressured Zelinskyy to give Kyiv and Ukraine back to Russia and become a satellite again.
If you think the withdrawal from Afghanistan was "disastrous," what would have happened under Trump would have been an agreement between him and his Taliban buddies to just hand over everyone who opposed them, including Americans.