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⚡️ Financial Times: China poised to help Russia.
FT quoted unnamed officials, writing that the U.S. has told allies that China signaled its willingness to provide military assistance to Russia to support its invasion of Ukraine.
11:16 AM · Mar 14, 2022
Original Source: https://www.ft.com/content/52ea7aab-f8d1-46b6-9d66-18545c5ef9b9
ffr
(22,665 posts)Target too.
Fuck China too then. If you choose to side with a murderous dictator killing women and children, then you do not deserve favored trading nation status too. China better think twice about who they're getting into bed with.
C_U_L8R
(44,987 posts)Two self-immolating economies. China would be really dumb to join Russia in its ill-planned pursuits.
Coventina
(27,057 posts)roamer65
(36,744 posts)Are Chinese military personnel going to get involved to run their equipment?
If so, we are on the brink of WW3.
JustAnotherGen
(31,780 posts)Right now - having read this -
My mind went to . . . China is going to then pull the same stunt in Taiwan.
Semiconductors are already a year out delayed for import so that my company can manufacture in the USA.
I hope they don't.
ColinC
(8,278 posts)I can't imagine China not being able to predict the same with Taiwan.
WarGamer
(12,354 posts)China is acting as a willing partner.
Celerity
(43,102 posts)The US has told allies that China signalled its willingness to provide military assistance to Russia to support its invasion of Ukraine, according to officials familiar with American diplomatic cables on the exchange. The cables, which were sent by the US state department to allies in Europe and Asia, were not specific about the level or the timing of any assistance that may be provided. The Financial Times reported on Sunday that Russia had made the request for assistance at some point after the start of the now three-week conflict. The Russian request and Chinese response have sounded alarm bells in the White House. US officials believe China is trying to help Russia while its top officials publicly call for a diplomatic solution to the war.
The Chinese embassy in the US on Sunday said it had no knowledge of any Russian request or positive Chinese response to Moscow. Russia on Monday also denied making any request to China. A senior US defence official declined to say if China had provided military support after Russias request, but said the Pentagon was watching the situation very, very closely. If China does choose to materially support Russia in this war, there will likely be consequences for China, the defence official said. The official added: We have seen China basically give tacit approval to what Russia is doing by refusing to join sanctions, by blaming the west and the United States for assistance that were giving Ukraine [and] by claiming they wanted to see a peaceful outcome but essentially doing nothing to achieve it.
Jake Sullivan, US national security adviser, discussed the request for military assistance in a meeting in Rome on Monday with Yang Jiechi, Chinas top foreign policy official. The White House said Sullivan had raised a range of issues with Yang, including substantial discussion of Russias war against Ukraine. Before departing Washington on Sunday, Sullivan said he would warn the Chinese not to attempt to bail out Russia, including helping it survive the tough sanctions from the west. We will ensure that neither China, nor anyone else, can compensate Russia for these losses, Sullivan told NBC television on Sunday. In terms of the specific means of doing that, again, Im not going to lay all of that out in public, but we will communicate that privately to China.
Ahead of the meeting between Sullivan and Yang, the Biden administration last week asked European allies to amplify their message to China that Beijing should not help Russia circumvent sanctions, according to one European official. China has portrayed itself as a neutral actor despite its increasingly close ties to Moscow. But Chinese media and diplomats have offered support for Russias justification for the invasion and blamed the US and Nato for the conflict. Chinese media have also repeated unsubstantiated Russian claims that the US helped Ukraine build biological weapons labs. Beijing and Moscow have grown closer in recent years, largely due to their shared disdain for the US and western military alliances such as Nato. Last month, Chinese president Xi Jinping and Russian president Vladimir Putin signed a joint statement in Beijing that described their increasingly close partnership as having no limits.
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One thought is that China might be deterred from doing it now that the news has actually gotten out that they might have.
Celerity
(43,102 posts)PortTack
(32,705 posts)China is all about helping China
For some perspective
China trade with Russia 84 billion
US 574 billion
Japan 360+ billion
EU 250+ billion
They will not want to risk US and western allies sanctions
Celerity
(43,102 posts)after Taiwan, etc, and says any interference with that will be considered a declaration of war on China and Russia by the West.
PortTack
(32,705 posts)China is installing loyalists on the island, more all the time. When they think they have enough of a population to put it to a national referendum China will win and just walk in. She says maybe 5-10 yrs. they are very very patient ppl
And, JMHO China doesnt want war with anyone. That doesnt work for China and trade