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I did a search but didn't see this posted here already - apologies if it is a duplicate. Very interesting article about Ukraine and Russia:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/11/was-it-inevitable-a-short-history-of-russias-war-on-ukraine
Sections:
1. The breakup: Russia and Ukraine after the fall of the USSR
2. Where does the motherland begin? The view from Ukraine
3. For Russia, Nato is a four-letter word
4. What Putin thinks
5. Where does this end?
Don't want to reread it to pick out some good paragraphs. Here's the first three:
For three months everyone argued about whether there would be a war, whether Vladimir Putin was bluffing or serious. Some of the Russia experts who had long told people to take it easy were now telling people to get worried. Others, who had long criticised Putin, said that he was just trying to draw attention to himself, that it was all for show. Among the analysts, there was a debate between the troop watchers and the TV watchers. The troop watchers saw the massive concentration of Russian forces at the border and in Crimea and warned of invasion. The TV watchers said that Russian TV was not ramping up war hysteria, as it usually does before a Russian invasion, and that this meant there would be no war.
The question was settled, for ever, on the night of 24 February, when Russian missiles hit military installations and civilian targets inside Ukraine, and Russian armoured convoys crossed the border. Then everyone began arguing about why. Was Putin crazy? Was he genuinely concerned about Nato expansion? Was he thinking in amoral categories as longtime Putin scholar Fiona Hill suggested that were fundamentally historical, along timescales that made no sense to ordinary mortals? Was he trying, bit by bit, to reconstruct the Russian Empire? Was Estonia next?
I had travelled to Moscow in January to see what I could learn. The city looked beautiful. Snow lay on the ground and everyone was very calm. Yes, repressions were ramping up, the space for political expression was narrowing, and many more people had died of Covid-19 than was officially acknowledged. And yes, speaking of Covid, Putin was paranoid about it, forcing anyone who wanted to see him in person to quarantine for one week in advance in a hotel the Kremlin had for that purpose. No one thought things were going in anything like the right direction, but none of the people I spoke to, some of them fairly well connected, thought an invasion was actually going to happen.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)drmeow
(5,013 posts)I kept looking at it thinking I was missing something but couldn't get it into my head what was missing. I'll update with more info.
IbogaProject
(2,789 posts)They don't have to be sequential.
Torchlight
(3,293 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)drmeow
(5,013 posts)I'm not working tomorrow. Maybe I should have a drink!
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)drmeow
(5,013 posts)Barely a shot, maybe less. Totally hit the spot!