Anyone Can Take Notes On A Criminal F*ckin' Conspiracy. Proud Boy Enrique Tarrio Filmed One.
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https://www.wonkette.com/anyone-can-take-notes-on-a-criminal-f-ckin-conspiracy-proud-boy-enrique-tarrio-filmed-one
Today a federal magistrate in Miami will hold a bail hearing for Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio. The Afro-Cuban white nationalist Aladdin aficionado and five of his fellow face-licking dipshits were indicted last week for conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. The government made its case to detain him pending trial in a Memorandum in Support of Detention filed last night.
The big news out of the filing is that these guys are even dumber than we previously knew.
How is that possible, you are asking?
What if we told you that Enrique Tarrio brought a film crew to his pre-insurrection powwow with Oath Keepers head Stewart Rhodes, who is currently charged with seditious conspiracy? Oh, yes, he did. And what if we said that this fuckin' genius made sure to let these guys catch him on tape admitting to destruction of evidence?
Darlings, feast your eyes on this bloody great idiot, who was arrested on January 4, 2021, for burning a Black Lives Matter banner, had his phone confiscated, and was ordered to leave DC:
Tarrio was released at approximately 5 p.m. on January 5, after having been ordered to leave the District of Columbia. Tarrio did not immediately comply with the order. Instead, he travelled to an underground parking garage, located in downtown Washington, D.C., where for approximately 30 minutes he met with a group of individuals that included Elmer Stewart Rhodes III, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers. A documentary film crew was present in the garage and, at one point, picked up audio of a person referencing the Capitol. Id. While in the parking garage, Tarrio told another individual that he had cleared all of the messages on his phone before he was arrested. Tarrio further stated that no one would be able to get into his phone because there were “two steps” to get into it.
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but I got the sense they were just trying to ruin him with that crowd.
This made me giggle and shake my head “ Afro-Cuban white nationalist”. 
Are we supposed to think he's going down and a sedition charge will be sustained up the court chain?
More from Reuters:
Tarrio, in an interview with Reuters Tuesday, denied working undercover or cooperating in cases against others. “I don’t know any of this,” he said, when asked about the transcript. “I don’t recall any of this.”...
...The records uncovered by Reuters are startling because they show that a leader of a far-right group now under intense scrutiny by law enforcement was previously an active collaborator with criminal investigators.
Washington police arrested Tarrio in early January when he arrived in the city two days before the Capitol Hill riot. He was charged with possessing two high-capacity rifle magazines, and burning a Black Lives Matter banner
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-proudboys-leader-exclusive-idUSKBN29W1PE
It's hard not to look at this earlier context, too, and ask questions ...
Seriously? Rifle magazines? a BLM flag?
Oh, and now there's a film crew video that should nail him?
Fine.
So who is the DOJ prosecuting -- a long term federal undercover informant whose constitutional rights might be being violated, a representative of an alt-right extremist organization, a leader who is law abiding when in DC? Has Tarrio even filed a not guilty plea? Will there even be a trial? For prosecutors to negotiate either, has it really taken the DOJ since last April to get proof for this stream of the multi-pronged Jan 6 coup activity? Whether the answer is yes or no, why is that?
Assuming there's no jury trial, would Tarrio's defense (and whoever's paying for it) try to get him to the the appellate level? could his sentence be overturned on a technicality? The 11th has made a decision reversals of late (e.g., Disney Cruise Lines and transgender cases). Maybe case decisions aren't additive, but the added fact that this whole process takes so long, that these alt-right extremists orgs have 'survived' so long, fits with my claim that the FBI and DOJ are right wing Republican biased in their law enforcement.
Clarence Thomas will oversee that kind of complication. Will his wife give input?
If we wonder why justice moves so slowly in the U.S., this is just another of the many examples we know of. Yet each step is presented as, "whoah! movin' right along!"
And this is in no way meant to criticize Nevilledog. At all.
This is my look at media, and mostly at the pace of main justice and judiciary proceedings (be patient, right?) seem to stall, and help maintain the legitimacy of the alt right Republican harborers of seditionists as if it is viable political organization.
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It's just that having to get in the weeds about large scale sedition is yet another argument for federal judiciary reform, from SCOTUS downward.
originally a reply to you when the thread got locked. I skimmed some headlines, figured you'd moved on but thought I'd go ahead and make my somewhat emotional, and now incorrect, point anyway.
I'm most grateful. I needed to learn that. I don't recall anyone on DU bringing up that all the arrestees had to be tried and sentenced in the same district, or it would have stayed in my head. Because I did know that arrestees are tried in the jurisdiction of their crime. I'd just thought it was near impossible for the DC judges to do that, so they had to move trials to the home districts.
If 22 judges have to handle 765 cases, perhaps I've not wanted to grok it, apparently. If that's how this is all working, it explains the backlog slowness of the the due process toward convictions and sentencings, and all the moaning around here about that pace, for whatever other reasons.
On your last point. The whole undercover story might come out and create reasonable doubt about the conspiracy charge. Since Elmer Rhoades hasn't pled yet, his conspiracy charge might or might not be dropped. How these conspirators of sedition are tried separately should be interesting. Thanks for the Sater video. That whole Sater thing, at the time, was too wild.
You're the best.
(I need to be in bed... )
Yes - you bring up a problem that the D.C. District court is facing with all those cases. They have protests and people arrested during them all the time, but most are relatively benign and the individuals either have the cases dismissed or they plead to some minor misdemeanor charge and pay a fine.
However in this case of an insurrection, the whole thing was unprecedented and thus the case load is also unprecedented. This is why I get frustrated when people keep asking "What are they doing?????!!11!!!!!", "They are just sitting on the hands!!!11!!!!", etc. The number of staff needed to deal with all of these cases is phenomenal.
And since most did not come from or live in D.C., their initial jurisdiction ends up being wherever they are residing, which is where they are then arrested, and later transferred (IOW, "extradited" ) to D.C. for further adjudication of their cases. Some of judges in those locations have been releasing them pending eventual trial in D.C. but a few have held them with no bail (it all depended on the circumstances of the charges and any flight risk).
A recent example of that cross-border thing - NYC had been grappling with finding a deranged guy who stabbed some employees at MOMA in NYC a couple days ago, and then fled. They found him early this morning down here in Philly sleeping on a bench at a Greyhound bus terminal a couple blocks from a hotel where he had checked into a room, and then left after starting a fire in it.
In that guy's case, the city arrested him and is holding him here pending charges for arson (and a trial if necessary - I don't think he has been arraigned yet to do a plea). Once that is resolved, he will be transferred back up to NYC for them to charge him with the stabbings and other related offenses.
And regarding Tarrio's purported previous "undercover" assistance - apparently per the article, he denied it, although admitting it would probably mean an automatic target on his back, and thus it might not be something he wants revealed in court. So something like that probably wouldn't come up in a trial anyway unless the prosecution tries to bring it up.
Yeah, these cross border things. It's why the Internet was invented.
I hear you about the undercover background. But per another article I posted, his own lawyer is also saying it. Why would he bring it up if Tarrio's in danger. Often putting the informant away keeps him safer. Better alive in jail than... well, unless Barr's involved. Anyway, I just thought it might be part of his defense if he's worn out his welcome with the feds.
If Tarrio's anything like Sater, he's probably the safest guy in the country.
Goodnight!
