I would offer a simple solution to end the conflict in Ukraine.

[colorado_ufo]

The same game cannot be played by two different sets of rules. There are the rules of all the treaties that have been signed along with the generally accepted rules of humanity. And then there are Putin's rules, which basically say that 1) I refuse "rules," 2) I do not limit myself with "humanitarian concerns"; 3) if confronted, I merely "double down" and make matters worse and worse and no one can touch me because of a nuclear threat.

Putin has given as a concern, ostensibly, about Ukraine joining NATO and being a threat to Russia as a reason for his invasion (along with other reasons that are purely nonsense). It is time for NATO, led by the USA, to use its own version of "double down." As the desire to join NATO is already in Ukraine's ratified constitution, NATO needs to present to Putin that he has 10 days, starting immediately, to withdraw his troops or NATO will give emergency admittance to Ukraine.

Putin will not take on the full force of NATO. He can also offer the excuse to Russia that, "See? I was right! They are threatening Russia with NATO admission of Ukraine and forcing us to comply!"

If he does not heed the warning, then do it and follow through with any force needed to evict these aggressors. If NATO does not put a end to this genocidal disaster, then it will be seen as powerless, and other dictators will be emboldened.

[Sherman A1]

1. Sorry

There are not simple solutions to complex issues.

[colorado_ufo]

5. Perhaps.

But there are times when the Gordian Knot solution needs to be applied.

Definition of Gordian knot
1 : an intricate problem especially : a problem insoluble in its own terms —often used in the phrase cut the Gordian knot. 2 : a knot tied by Gordius, king of Phrygia, held to be capable of being untied only by the future ruler of Asia, and cut by Alexander the Great with his sword. (Wikipedia)

[Sherman A1]

12. Yeah, okay

Just keep believing that you have the answer that no one in any of the many governments will involved couldn’t come up with already…….

[colorado_ufo]

17. This is what discussion is about, all ideas.

Appreciate your input.

[48656c6c6f20]

8. Why?

Because you say so? I've found many simple solutions for complex problems in my life, so I am wondering why it has defeated you?

[Sherman A1]

11. Simple answer

If it was simple, it would have been done already.

[USALiberal]

16. So the president and the generals can't get it but you can?

[48656c6c6f20]

19. I've had complex issues that I have solved

With simple answers. They can do it too. But you're mistaking willingness with simplicity. The answer is simple we protect democracy for everyone or we don't. We have chosen not to. That's as simplistic as it gets

[USALiberal]

18. Lol

[Wingus Dingus]

2. NATO isn't going to do anything--Russia is having a hard time

with supply lines inside Ukraine. The soldiers are hungry and wish to desert. Ukraine is targeting their supply convoys. NATO involvement now would change the dynamic in Putin's favor, and give Russia a burst of energy instead of allowing them to sink further into a demoralizing shit show. The best thing NATO can do now is just show resolve that we will continue to support Ukraine as long as Ukraine wishes to fight.

[colorado_ufo]

4. You are right, as long as Ukraine can hold out.

Although I cannot see them surrender under any circumstances. The devastation will be terrible.

[SledDriver]

3. Refer to Putin's rule #3

[uponit7771]

7. +1,

[uponit7771]

6. Unnn, lets say Ukraine wins this hands down by themselves. 1. Russia is GONE as a military power

... in mystic and in reality they're no longer a threat as they were before Ukraine, 2. Putrid is gone as a leader and we can help push Russia to democracy or something close to it, 3. it will send a signal world wide to militaries ***INCLUDING AMERICAS*** that a bloody nose among a democratic nation IS NOT WORTH IT.

[colorado_ufo]

9. Ideal case. Let's all hope for this and

pray, if you are a person with religious faith.

[marie999]

10. Not all NATO countries would allow it.

[colorado_ufo]

14. It will be interesting to see what comes from the special urgent top level NATO meeting

that has just been scheduled, along with (I believe) the NATO defense ministers meeting this week. Biden is due to fly to the special meeting, so that is truly top level.

[Mr.Bill]

13. As long as Putin has nuclear weapons,

he is still a threat and a world power. One thing is for sure, even if Putin pulls out of Ukraine, all sanctions must stay in place until Russia gets rid of every single nuclear weapon it has.

[colorado_ufo]

15. Absolutely.

Putin and the nuclear arsenal must both go, because Putin isn't the only threat.

[Calculating]

20. Agreed

Russia must lose the nukes before sanctions are ever lifted. They've proven that they cannot be trusted with them by threatening the world.