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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSNBC's Rachel Maddow spiked Keith Olbermann as her replacement as show nears end
MSNBC nearly tapped Keith Olbermann to fill Rachel Maddow's soon-to-be-vacant primetime slot, but Maddow personally made sure her former mentor didn't get the job.
Olbermann, who helped develop the network's voice before he was ousted in 2011, told The Daily Beast's "Source Material" that he was deep into negotiations with NBCUniversal CEO Jeff Shell and news chief Cesar Conde to return to MSNBC in the 9 p.m. weeknight spot before Maddow intervened.
I offered to have her production company produce the show," Olbermann said. "Would give her some proxy control and a f*ckton of money but she and [former MSNBC chief-turned-consultant to Maddows production company] Phil Griffin refused."
I do not expect to continue negotiations with the successors to this management team, he added. Management is worse than asleep at the switch.
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https://www.rawstory.com/rachel-maddow-keith-olbermann/
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)Tetrachloride
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AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)Just like he got fired for the first time.
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Tetrachloride
(7,816 posts)Keith wants to say more
JHB
(37,156 posts)What's needed in that slot is a successor to TRMS. Olberman can turn a good rant, but there's a depth that TRMS has that he lacks.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)I want Olberman back. I don't see anyone else out there to replace Rachel or Olberman. Maybe Lawrence?
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oldtime dfl_er
(6,930 posts)You know what? I trust Rachel Maddow. Either she is actually planning to come back (god willing) or she has someone else in mind for the spot. I trust her.
That said, I would LOVE to see Olbermann back on the air. There are plenty of hours that need filling. I would sign a petition to help make that happen.
Botany
(70,447 posts)Keith seems to think that he is more important than the story. Talented? Without a doubt
but there is a reason so many of the people who used to work with and for him want nothing
to do with him now.
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samsingh
(17,590 posts)Gore hired him to do the news, and i recall Olbermann was upset about production values and limos and not concerned about the news. He quite during an election cycle because he didn't feel appreciated.
It was so very disappointing.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)stupid move on their part.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)KO is very popular.
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BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)like he did during tRump and Covid he was a must watch. 10 minutes of Keith covers more than 60 minutes of other programs.
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BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)He sold his tRump Tower apt at a loss 4 years ago.
DURHAM D
(32,606 posts)Glad Olberman won't be on my tv. Can't stand the jerk.
Celerity
(43,107 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)hmmm...Rachel looks different to me
Hekate
(90,556 posts)Makes me wonder what he said to her all those years ago.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Hekate
(90,556 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)While none. now or before, have reported the cause being something he said or did.
ruet
(10,037 posts)Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Can't stand Stephanie Ruhle. KO would knock that hour off the charts!
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BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)UTUSN
(70,645 posts)Celerity
(43,107 posts)to the conclusion that she is doing the right thing.
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Hekate
(90,556 posts)
or the side of her spokesperson. That would be fair, would it not?
The other thing missing is the story of Olbermans career arc. When he was bounced out of MSNBC all those years ago, I was a fan of his. Then I got to read about how he burned his bridges behind him from job after job after job.
That puts a whole different slant on things, in my opinion.
Sneederbunk
(14,278 posts)MSNBC is the employer, not Rachel.
Hekate
(90,556 posts)
pole-vault to conclusions, shes coming off as the bad guy.
As for her speaking out, it is 100% possible she intended for all of this to be private and confidential, and that she certainly has no intention of spreading old gossip around. Perhaps she has an adult sense of dignity for both their sakes. Perhaps there is a history we know nothing of since shes not telling her side and perhaps she believes shes rising above it by not engaging in a back and forth.
See, anyone can speculate. This is mine.
Tadpole Raisin
(972 posts)Leaving suddenly and in a huff. Once or twice could be for taking a moral high ground with management but he has made it a career.
No matter how good a presenter he is there is something more going on here. If it is true that she stopped him from getting the nod I think there is a good reason for it.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)Earth-shine
(3,949 posts)Both apply to Keith.
Burned his bridges.
Too big for his britches.
That having been said, I'd be happy to see him back at MSNBC.
Tadpole Raisin
(972 posts)Too much of The Waltons as a kid. Everything seemed to be about britches, lol.
Now is it butt naked or buck naked?
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)Watched him for a while, then he just became annoying and full of himself. He clearly still is full of himself, from his quotes.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)His commentary can be brilliant but it's clearly not enough for networks to put up with him.
relayerbob
(6,537 posts)Sometimes he's on fire. More often, he just rants, often missing the main points of an issue. I'm sure from all he reports, that working with him was a real joy.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)disloyalty and maybe she is afraid his rating would blow hers out of the water. I think he would get way better ratings. I don't watch Rachel anymore...haven't in a while...but I and millions of others no doubt would watch Keith.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)Maybe it isn't some seekrit conspiracy against liberals and it's just that he's an asshole who treats his coworkers like shit, is ethically compromised (making campaign donations in exchange for guest appearances) and airs his dirty laundry in public when he doesn't get his way.
But sure, Keith is the victim here.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Im sorry but Mr. Olbermann has a track record. Hes hot out of the blocks but within a few years (or months) hes out - usually with plenty of pyrotechnics. Twice at ESPN, once at Current TV, MSNBC, and FOX Sports. Hes fast to blame others for his failures and in return those left behind feel fucking relieved at having him gone.
For the admitted potential Olbermann offers, his biggest problem is his gigantic ego and the drain that creates on the news product he intends to deliver. His real audience it seems is the man the mirror.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)nothing happened to him. Keith is great...he speaks his mind-no one owns him...Rachel is dead to me. I got to tell you, I find her show boring to begin with...out in the weeds most of the time...I love Keith and really don't watch cable news anymore.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)That's a big ethical no-no for a journalist. But apparently a lot of people here don't care about ethics if they agree with the politics.
iemanja
(53,012 posts)Obermann whining again. He's an expert at it.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)would Rachel do this...I really don't care for her that much and now out and out dislike her.
AZSkiffyGeek
(10,972 posts)That's REAL professional.
iemanja
(53,012 posts)This is Obermann's account, and he has always believed the world owed him success. He's gotten fired from multiple jobs for a reason. Why would they want to rehire him?
DET
(1,299 posts)Well, thank God Olbermann wasnt chosen for that special spot, or hopefully any other. I never understood his appeal. In fact, I couldnt stand him. Always struck me as a self-important pompous ass. We have more than enough of those right now. And its highly unprofessional of him to disclose behind the scenes maneuvering.
Rachels replacement is obvious, and has been for some time - Ali Velshi. The man is brilliant, down to earth, extremely flexible, and professional. I am amazed at how this isnt obvious to MSNBC.
BComplex
(8,017 posts)He's just a little too impressed with himself for us. And, of course, we LOVE Rachel, and to put Keith Olbermann in her position would just leave us watching CNN or something for that hour. I think Ali Velshi does a tremendous job in her absence.
The rest of the MSNBC lineup is awesome! I'm glad Rachel put the nix on the Olbermann idea.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)me that MSNBC will tilt even more to the right...I don't like any of them anymore except O'Donnell...and I have no doubt he will be gotten rid of...
electric_blue68
(14,818 posts)wrapping up with the Bagman Spiro Agnew movie?