it would be permissible for any family member of a rapist to sue the victim of rape for proceeding..

[IcyPeas]

Note: the rapist himself cannot sue the victim, but his family can.

Watch Rep. Bob Freeman's (D) question (at :54 second mark in video).

In advancing HB2779, a bill modeled after the Texas abortion law, Rep. Rebecca Alexander (R) says that it would be permissible for any family member of a rapist to sue the victim of rape for proceeding with an abortion.

The bill is moving forward to full committee.

Link to tweet

[cate94]

1. Wtf?

Republicans just hate women. Sickening.

[dchill]

2. Even Republican women hate... themselves?!

[MerryBlooms]

7. The women pushing these laws is what I

Don't understand. Did they all birth babies from rape, and it worked okay for them, so, it's okay for all? Wtf is their motivation? Money? OfTennessee. OfTexas...

[wnylib]

29. Would any self-respecting woman be a Republican?

Why belong to a party of misogynists?

[Kittycatkat]

3. So I guess the rape victim can sue the rapists family for raising a child to become a rapist?

[Beartracks]

10. This makes sense. There oughta be a law...

[Akacia]

4. Monsters!!!

[Demovictory9]

6. Next..bill to lock up pregnant women

[hlthe2b]

5. if that victim "loses it" & shoots the rapist's family members for unbearable levels of harrassment

what will these white male POS (plural) do to the jury that nullifies against any charges? At some point, someone IS going to attempt to render karma on some of these sadistic a'holes addicted to cruel misogyny. Do they even consider that possibility?

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

24. I see some episodes of "Snapped" in the future.

[JudyM]

8. WTAH?

[Arkansas Granny]

9. I'm sure I've been told that the war on women is purely imaginary,

but it sure doesn't feel like it.

[Kittycatkat]

11. Imaginary only in that we could never have imagined how far they would go....

[70sEraVet]

12. Good for Rep Freeman

[evolves]

14. He's definitely one of our good guys.

But most of our legislature is batshit crazy.

[keithbvadu2]

13. The rapist's family should be required to adopt the baby and/or support it for life.

The rapist's family should be required to adopt the baby and/or support it for life.

[Hekate]

15. I think 99.9% of women would find that option hideous beyond belief

[keithbvadu2]

19. Full support then.

[Hekate]

33. Let me amend: 99.9% of raped women would find the option hideous. The idea of bearing a rapist's ...

…child, feeling it grow and move, feeling the hormones of motherhood kick in, will she nor nil she, and then give it up to the rapist? Like being a brood mare, a bitch with puppies, a sheep or cow?

I think I would rather die and take my infant with me to the next world, if I could not run fast and far.

Just so we are clear about what I meant.

[ShazzieB]

35. I'm with you, Hekate.

Can't see a word there that I disagree with. ☹

First, there's not an iceberg's chance in hell that I would ever want some disgusting rapist's family to raise MY baby, even one I was forced against my will to have. (Seriously, what an incredibly revolting idea!)

Second, even PERPETUAL financial support would not begin to make up for being robbed of my agency in such a heinous way.

If I couldn't provide for the child myself, I'd prefer to give it up for adoption to adoptive parents I myself chose and vetted, rather than accept either of those options.

[Hekate]

39. Thank you

[keithbvadu2]

37. IF the court should make her carry it full term.

IF the court should make her carry it full term.

I left that part out.

I don't disagree with you on the hideous part if the victim feels that way.

But I do want the rapist's family accountable if they fight to make the victim carry it.

Even if the baby is adopted elsewhere.

[obamanut2012]

45. Why the hell should the rapist and his family have ANY say????

Fuck that. No.

Why in the world are you even suggesting this as a solution???

[Claire Oh Nette]

20. As do 100% of adult adoptees.

Adoption is not the opposite of abortion.

In each instance, being able to keep your own child is.

[obamanut2012]

44. WTF no

[Rhiannon12866]

16. I'm beginning to believe that there are "lawmakers" here who have completely lost their minds

[wnylib]

31. Never had one to lose. What passes for a mind

among them is located in their genitals.

[justgamma]

17. So the rapist gets to

choose his baby momma and there's nothing she can do about it.

[wnylib]

34. Cave man fantasy.

Grab a woman by the hair and carry her off to a cave.

[Ferrets are Cool]

18. To say the country is going to hell in a handbasket is like saying

the moon is far away from the earth.

[FuzzyRabbit]

21. Who is running the asylum?

The inmates are running the asylum.

[First Speaker]

22. These scum are sowing the wind...

...and somehow, some time, they're going to reap the whirlwind. For obvious reasons, I won't elucidate exactly what's in my mind right now. But karma is going to be a very big bitch, sooner or later, to these clerical fascist monsters...

[Lunabell]

23. My god!

What will these christo-fascists do next? Goddamnit!

[niyad]

25. I had to read this three times. Thought for sure I had misunderstood.

There are words. .most of which would net me a visit from the suits.

[Hekate]

40. Yes

I have to stop now

[Orrex]

26. By that fucked up logic, if someone were to stab ol' Freeman...

any family member of the stabber could sue Freeman if he pulled out the knife.

[ancianita]

27. Pretty sure there's an "undue burden" clause in constitutional law that does impact state law.

Way to impoverish women, the babies they're made to have, and ruin both mothers' and babies' lives for good!
There needs to be a Women's Defense Force.

See those Tennessee guys? See their groomed token performing as their proxy? They are what woman haters look and talk like.

[Grins]

28. But there is no war on women....

And in this case, war on women BY (Republican) women.

[wnylib]

38. Brainwashed.

There is a related phenomenon among women that I remember seeing back in the 1970s. It is women blaming women for being raped. Sometimes women are the harshest critics of a rape victim/survivor. It comes from fear and a desire to distance herself from what she fears. So a woman will say, "She asked for it. She dressed wrong." Or, "She should not have been at the party (or out shopping, or wherever she was.)" Or, "She must have led him on."

The psychology of it is, "If I just do the right thing and avoid the wrong thing, I am in control and it won't happen to me. So you must have done something wrong."

I saw it, as I said, in 1970 and it still exists among some women today. I was 20 and a 19 year old friend of mine from our high school days had been kidnapped, driven out of state, and repeatedly raped by a stranger. She managed to escape from a hotel room that he had locked her in and got to the office to call police.

The police made a joke of it, accused her of making it up as a cover story for running away with a boyfriend and then being frightened by the reality of sex. She called per parents who called the FBI. They took it seriously because her description of the guy matched their alert for a prison escapee.

But the original cop version got printed in the papers. I was amazed by the heartlessly cruel comments that I heard from women in the lunch room at work the next day. They never met the young woman, but spoke "authoritatively" about her being a liar, slut with a cover story, etc. The reality is that she was the shyest, most trusting and innocent of the group we hung out with at school. I was furious at their verbal attacks on the victim. I had gone to see her right after it hit the news and she was a total wreck. I lashed out at the cruelty of my coworkers.

(The guy was caught 6 months later and convicted )

So I am not surprised when I hear of women supporting misogynistic ideas and legislation.

[Hekate]

41. I know

[wnylib]

42. It was so damned horrifying and infuriating.

They did not even know the young woman but presumed to know all about what had happened and how. That was at a time when victim's names were made public. So, when I called her house immediately after hearing it on the news, her mother's tone was very guarded until I gave my name. She checked with my friend to see if she was up to visitors before telling me it was ok to come over.

I felt so bad for her and so helpless. Didn't know what to say, so I just listened and let her talk.

And then ran into that awful attitude at work. I was so angry at them that I made enemies that day for the things that I said to them but I could not consider any of them friends after that anyway.

[mzmolly]

30. Huh?

[Jacson6]

32. The rapist would have to testify in open court that he raped the woman.

That could be used by a prosecutor to imprison the rapist. Stupid conservatives.

[gaskinite]

36. Once the rape baby is born

If the mother asks for help from the state she will be referred to as a welfare queen.

[raccoon]

43. And that family member is going to provide for the child.

In a pig’s ass.

Just when you think Republicans couldn’t get more stupid, they never fail to disappoint.

[obamanut2012]

46. All of these laws are SCOTUS' fault

Or rather, the GZP members.

[CousinIT]

47. SO...Full sexual and reproductive slavery then.

FORCED sex (rape); FORCED pregnancy and childbirth - completely disregarding the human rights of the woman or girl and denying her bodily autonomy. That's some EVIL American Taliban shit right there.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/reproductive-rights-and-long-hand-slave-breeding/