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Aviation Pro

(12,177 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:48 PM Oct 2012

As any infantryman knows....

...it's the ground pounders that win the battle and ultimately the war. Taking terrain is what it's all about. You add airpower as a force multiplier, but if you cede the ground you lose.

Thus goes military strategy (and the often overlooked tactical logistics) so goes the the President's election strategy. We aren't ceding the airwaves to the Fucking Stiff, but we are overwhelmingly putting our troops in the field and on the ground.

Who said the President hasn't learned about military campaigns in the four years he's been CINC?

Keep moving forward and keep that assclown motherfucker out of the White House.

Forward and Charge.

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As any infantryman knows.... (Original Post) Aviation Pro Oct 2012 OP
Follow Me !!! GP6971 Oct 2012 #1
You bet... Aviation Pro Oct 2012 #2
Far across the Chattahoochee, to the Upatoi... pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #4
Yup.... Aviation Pro Oct 2012 #6
And for you BTDTs out there.... Aviation Pro Oct 2012 #3
Here GP6971 Oct 2012 #5
Outstanding... Aviation Pro Oct 2012 #7
I love Obama Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #8
+1,000. freshwest Oct 2012 #10
To all the groundpounders, Aristus Oct 2012 #9
What a handsome young devil! freshwest Oct 2012 #11
Awww... Aristus Oct 2012 #12
Tankers kind of fascinated me in the army, they are a different breed. It is odd to learn the braddy Oct 2012 #13
We are... Aviation Pro Oct 2012 #14
You Are The Fucking Best HangOnKids Oct 2012 #15
The life expectancey of a tank crew in battle is about 1 minute coldwaterintheface Oct 2012 #16
Uh, no... Aviation Pro Oct 2012 #17
Things that make you go: "Hmmmm". Aristus Oct 2012 #20
I always preferred the ground, and never wanted to serve in Armor, and I only wanted to be in the braddy Oct 2012 #22
Yep, the tank is definitely our environment. Aristus Oct 2012 #18
Yeah you know it!! That is exactly what's what!! SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #19
Actually, the President learned the ground game in Chicago politics.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #21
charge! flamingdem Oct 2012 #23

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
4. Far across the Chattahoochee, to the Upatoi...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:12 AM
Oct 2012

Stands our loyal Alma Mater, Benning School for Boys...

OC502-68

Aviation Pro

(12,177 posts)
3. And for you BTDTs out there....
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:01 AM
Oct 2012

...check in. I know you're out there and nobody is going to take away your devices because you stand up and be counted.

GP6971

(31,176 posts)
5. Here
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:12 AM
Oct 2012

Commisioned Infantry, wound up in Transportation. Looking back, much preferred riding to walking!

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
8. I love Obama
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:41 AM
Oct 2012

He's running for re-election for us, not for himself.
I do believe this. I don't know if I've ever seen it
before, except maybe Jimmy Carter.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
13. Tankers kind of fascinated me in the army, they are a different breed. It is odd to learn the
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:47 AM
Oct 2012

different environments that men prefer to fight from.

Some men prefer fighting from aircraft , some prefer ships on the sea, some prefer tanks, others prefer fighting on the ground.

Aviation Pro

(12,177 posts)
14. We are...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:52 AM
Oct 2012

...to put it succintly, we are four individual fingers that when merged fight like a fist.

As a PL and with the aid of a brilliant PSG, I forged four fists (sometimes a fifth when I had the CO's tank) into a hammer.

 

coldwaterintheface

(137 posts)
16. The life expectancey of a tank crew in battle is about 1 minute
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 07:41 AM
Oct 2012

at least that was the estimate used by the battle planners back in the day against the USSR but it increased about 30 seconds for each minute in battle. A ground pounder can light a tank up with a laser from a good distance away and a weapon is sent in from miles away taking out the tank before they even know what happended.


There are more toys in the US inventory and currently being sold all over the world by other countries to take out tanks then just about anything else sold by the arms manufactures.




Aviation Pro

(12,177 posts)
17. Uh, no...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 07:50 AM
Oct 2012

...and I don't have the time to educate the uninformed about the survivability initiatives of the 1980's. Just look up Chobham armor in the Wiki thing.

If you survive long enough on this board maybe you can come back with an answer.

Aristus

(66,430 posts)
20. Things that make you go: "Hmmmm".
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:20 AM
Oct 2012


If this guy ever actually served, AvPro, he must have been a Bradley scout. Those guys honestly seemed to think their TOW missiles gave them the edge over our M1A1's...
 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
22. I always preferred the ground, and never wanted to serve in Armor, and I only wanted to be in the
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 04:28 PM
Oct 2012

aircraft long enough to reach the drop zone, I never wanted to be an airman, and sailor? No thanks.

Aristus

(66,430 posts)
18. Yep, the tank is definitely our environment.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:17 AM
Oct 2012

We used to like to say: "Tankers - Death Before Dismount!"

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
21. Actually, the President learned the ground game in Chicago politics....
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:32 AM
Oct 2012

...those lessons were, as you stated, invaluable in learning that all campaigns, political and military, are won on the ground.

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