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BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:57 AM Mar 2022

China, in damage control mode, says the Ukraine invasion knocked them over like a feather

We didn’t know Putin was about to invade, insists China

China has rejected accusations that it was aware of President Putin’s plans to invade Ukraine and claims it would have tried to prevent the onslaught had it been warned beforehand.

Qin Gang, the Chinese ambassador to Washington, issued a fresh rebuttal against allegations that Putin told President Xi in advance that he would invade, only to delay the attack until after Beijing’s Winter Olympics had concluded.

The pair met on February 4, the opening day of the Games, and simultaneously promised to deepen ties in a partnership with “no limits”. The Games concluded on February 20, with Putin ordering the offensive four days later.

Western intelligence had previously claimed that senior Chinese officials asked their Russian counterparts not to invade until after the Winter Olympics ended. President Xi, it is claimed, had sought assurance that nothing would distract from the Games.

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China, in damage control mode, says the Ukraine invasion knocked them over like a feather (Original Post) BeyondGeography Mar 2022 OP
Additional quotes BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #1
Who didn't know about the imminent crisis? C_U_L8R Mar 2022 #9
Sorry, not buying it. The CPC always hangs to the rear with non-committal so they can AZLD4Candidate Mar 2022 #10
Rule #1 CrackityJones75 Mar 2022 #2
Personally, I think they're lying. yagotme Mar 2022 #3
the only people who didn't believe Putin would not invade Ukraine Ray Bruns Mar 2022 #4
The whole world knows this is a lie, so why bother? Buckeyeblue Mar 2022 #5
Under Xi, the CPC has ramped up "the entire world is against us" propaganda AZLD4Candidate Mar 2022 #11
As long as China wants to invade any or every country, ... they Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #6
Failure has no friends C_U_L8R Mar 2022 #7
"There's an old saying that victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan." John F. Kennedy Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #13
Utter bullshit. dalton99a Mar 2022 #8
Chinese TV has been pushing GQP-Russian propaganda about "bioweapons labs" Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #12
YOU LIE, XI! Dawson Leery Mar 2022 #14

BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
1. Additional quotes
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:58 AM
Mar 2022
“All these claims serve only the purpose of shifting blame to and slinging mud at China. There were more than 6,000 Chinese citizens in Ukraine. China is the biggest trading partner of both Russia and Ukraine, and the largest importer of crude oil and natural gas in the world.

“Conflict between Russia and Ukraine does no good for China. Had China known about the imminent crisis, we would have tried our best to prevent it.”

C_U_L8R

(44,991 posts)
9. Who didn't know about the imminent crisis?
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:09 PM
Mar 2022

It was the damn subtext of the whole Olympics. Nice try at playing dumb, China.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,639 posts)
10. Sorry, not buying it. The CPC always hangs to the rear with non-committal so they can
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:12 PM
Mar 2022

join the winning side at the end.

yagotme

(2,911 posts)
3. Personally, I think they're lying.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:59 AM
Mar 2022

Buildup of troops on the border, etc., and they didn't see it coming? Ray Charles saw that coming...

Ray Bruns

(4,081 posts)
4. the only people who didn't believe Putin would not invade Ukraine
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 11:59 AM
Mar 2022

are people who had their head up their ass or were on Putin's payroll.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,639 posts)
11. Under Xi, the CPC has ramped up "the entire world is against us" propaganda
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:13 PM
Mar 2022

Nationalism is running wild coming people, especially the under 25 set.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
13. "There's an old saying that victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan." John F. Kennedy
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:23 PM
Mar 2022
There's an old saying that victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan.... I'm the responsible officer of the Government.
State Department press conference (21 April 1961), following the Bay of Pigs Invasion, as quoted in A Thousand Days : John F. Kennedy in the White House (1965, 2002 edition), by Arthur Schlesinger, p. 262; also in The Quote Verifier (2006) by Ralph Keyes, p. 234). The exact wording used by Kennedy (a hundred, not a thousand) had appeared in the 1951 film The Desert Fox: The Story of Rommel, as reported in Safire's New Political Dictionary (1993) by William Safire, pp 841–842). The earliest known occurrence is Galeazzo Ciano, Diary 1937-1943, entry for 9 September 1942 ("La victoria trova cento padri, e nessuno vuole riconoscere l'insuccesso." ), but the earliest known occurrence on such a theme is in Tacitus's : Agricola Book 1 ab paragraph 27: “Iniquissima haec bellorum condicio est: prospera omnes sibi vindicant, adversa uni imputantur.” (It is the singularly unfair peculiarity of war that the credit of success is claimed by all, while a disaster is attributed to one alone.)
-- WikiQuote

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
12. Chinese TV has been pushing GQP-Russian propaganda about "bioweapons labs"
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 12:14 PM
Mar 2022

Perhaps they've stopped and shifted in the last few days.

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