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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,837 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:19 PM Mar 2022

Russian Pilots Have No Choice But To Fly Straight Through Ukraine's Man-Portable Missiles

It’s not hard to explain the startling losses of aircraft and pilots the Russian air force has suffered as the Ukraine war enters its third week.

Russian air-warfare doctrine, plus a shortage of precision-guided munitions, all but forces the Vozdushno-kosmicheskiye sily’s (VKS) fighter and attack pilots to fly low and slow underneath cloud cover within just a few miles of Ukrainian troops.

It’s a recipe for disaster. A low, slow flight profile along the front line puts Russian fighters and attack planes in range of the one type of defensive missile that the Russians have no hope of suppressing. Man-portable air-defense systems such as the Strela, Igla and Stinger.

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The Ukrainian defense ministry claims its forces have destroyed 77 Russian fixed-wing aircraft. Independent observers have confirmed at least 12 of those kills. Verified losses include five Su-25 attack planes, two Su-30 and four Su-34 fighters and an An-26 transport.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-pilots-have-no-choice-but-to-fly-straight-through-ukraine-s-man-portable-missiles/ar-AAV7XhC

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Russian Pilots Have No Choice But To Fly Straight Through Ukraine's Man-Portable Missiles (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2022 OP
Seems like they're using WWII tactics... Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #1
+1, they NO DOUBT have not gotten out of WWII mindset and haven't fought a major war since uponit7771 Mar 2022 #2
Also the Ukrainians got their wake-up call in 2014 localroger Mar 2022 #4
yeah, didnt the pentagon tell us that the era of tank warfare was over? mopinko Mar 2022 #6
I hope all the people overseeing Ukraine's strategy get through this tanyev Mar 2022 #3
Send Ukraine more weapons. Dawson Leery Mar 2022 #5

Wounded Bear

(58,618 posts)
1. Seems like they're using WWII tactics...
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:26 PM
Mar 2022


They probably got away with it in previous recent wars, where their enemies didn't have the logistical support we're giving the Ukrainians. They also have not gotten over their tendency to not care much about casualties in their offensive operations.

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
2. +1, they NO DOUBT have not gotten out of WWII mindset and haven't fought a major war since
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:31 PM
Mar 2022

... WWII.

Their next gen weapons are for show so far they're literally fighting war were attrition of citizens is their goal.

They can't defeat regulars because they suck bad so this is their default mode.

localroger

(3,622 posts)
4. Also the Ukrainians got their wake-up call in 2014
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 01:39 PM
Mar 2022

They made themselves as ready as possible years before this invasion began, because they knew it might be coming.

mopinko

(70,067 posts)
6. yeah, didnt the pentagon tell us that the era of tank warfare was over?
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 02:36 PM
Mar 2022

pretty sure i recall that correctly.

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