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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSen Schumer announces that CEOs of major oil companies will be called to testify before Congress.
Chuck Schumer @SenSchumer
Instead of lowering gas prices, Big Oil companies are using their soaring profits to reward their shareholders with stock buybacks. That is wrong. Today, Im announcing that we will be calling the CEOs of major oil companies to testify before Congress.
2:49 PM · Mar 16, 2022
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Our own oilygarchs time has come
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SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)maxrandb
(15,295 posts)with Retrumplicans in charge.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)They have to by law do whatever it takes to make $ for stock holders, stock holders who often times just own stock and have no real work into the company, but they often get paid the most?
TIFU!
The imbalance in pay is why a lot of people are upset and some don't want to give great effort as a result should not be so surprising?
100M a year is $50,000 per hour for 2000 hours.
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ForgedCrank
(1,764 posts)is that? I don't see any law that was broken, and they are doing what companies do. Things weren't so great for them the past 6-8 years comparatively speaking.
I don't necessarily like what they are doing because it affects the economy in a very negative way, but I don't think I can support this sort of thing with government getting involved in the business dealings of private companies. Laws are what congress can do, not demanding owners show up for their caning and stoning when we don't agree with them. That's not how this should work at all, and it's a little scary to think anyone would support this sort of thing. That is one thing that is different between us and the Russians and Chinese.
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ForgedCrank
(1,764 posts)believes they are actually breaking a law, I would support a law enforcement investigation into those accusation. Of course, I have not seen any evidence whatsoever of a crime here.
I most certainly do not support dragging private citizens into a congressional hearing just to wag fingers at them live on TV.
There is more than one political party, and ours won't be in charge forever. Something we always need to remember. I do not support politicians behaving in this manner, it is crossing lines that should not be crossed.
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Salviati
(6,008 posts)I believe that there is behavior that we should consider to be immoral, that we should not make illegal. There are things that we as a society want to discourage, but that we should not make laws against, because they would be impossible to enforce, or we wouldn't want to become the society we'd need to become in order to enforce them. In such cases if the offending behavior is seen as undesirable by a majority then shame and public pressure can be effective enforcement mechanisms, but for that to work, the offending party needs to be shamed in public.
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Disaffected
(4,545 posts)one sees few tears of concern when oil prices are cratering and a lot of oil & gas companies and their ancillary support industries are losing large amounts of money or going bankrupt.
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Disaffected
(4,545 posts)Surely you're joking that you have never heard of an O&G associated company that lost money or went bankrupt because of low oil/gas prices.....
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Disaffected
(4,545 posts)research, I know!
Here's some for you:
'Big Oil incurred record loss in 2020'
https://www.ogj.com/general-interest/economics-markets/article/14197855/big-oil-incurred-record-loss-in-2020
And, how 'bout all the O & G associated companies such as drilling, testing and servicing plus a myriad of smaller independents that lost money or went belly up??
Gotta laugh indeed.
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Disaffected
(4,545 posts)there Bucko.
"When's the last year oil companies lost money?"
And, yeah, they and their accountants are all tax crooks as well....
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Justice matters.
(6,918 posts)THAT would teach them not to abuse their freedumbs...
WarGamer
(12,354 posts)Specific statute, please.
Justice matters.
(6,918 posts)https://www.mindingyourbusinesslitigation.com/2020/07/federal-price-gouging-enforcement-update/
One could think harsh measures on these fat cats would be so unpopular for voters... /sarcasm
WarGamer
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wryter2000
(46,023 posts)And letting the public know whats going on so they know who to blame for the prices. Certainly, no one is going to press charges against the CEOs.
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I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)Thier own stock,becoming the shareholders.
https://www.claret.ca/publications/stock-buybacks-value-benefits-companies-buy-back-shares/
Let that swirl around in your mouth a bit before you spit it out.
Karadeniz
(22,470 posts)their questions to her...assuming you want to get anywhere!
zuul
(14,624 posts)Tacan
(97 posts)Televise on all major channels at prime time.
Karadeniz
(22,470 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,238 posts)More perjury that will never even be charged, much less prosecuted.
RainCaster
(10,834 posts)... and all this will go away, just like it always does.
Number9Dream
(1,560 posts)SergeStorms
(19,186 posts)And don't allow them to filibuster with their "it's clean energy" bullshit.
Go after 'em, Democrats!
calimary
(81,110 posts)Put em in the hot seat. And then turn up the temperature.
Hekate
(90,556 posts)I think TFG has something to do with it too.
AllaN01Bear
(17,987 posts)the tarp hearings when big corps begged for money? now , gee i wonder why. maybe their super luxery yachts as well. we shall see. when these investigations are announced , they dissapear.
orleans
(34,040 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Fuck these tax dodgers..
MichMan
(11,868 posts)PatrickforB
(14,558 posts)If any of you have him as you Senator, can you call his staff (I will be calling my own Senators, for sure) and suggest we force changes in corporate charters to a stakeholder approach to corporate governance, rather than profits over people (shareholder primacy), which is what we have now. And which is why so many CEOs engage in sociopathic behavior. Shareholder primacy encourages that.
The Mouth
(3,145 posts)Might get them in the right frame of mind
Martin68
(22,765 posts)spanone
(135,791 posts)GIVE 'EM HELL
themaguffin
(3,816 posts)marie999
(3,334 posts)I know its greed, but isn't it a law?
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)They have a fiduciary interest to manage cash flow & capital in a way that serves the company's best interest.
They do not have a legal obligation to maximize profits by any means & under all circumstances.
For instance, borrowing money from a The Hartford line of credit to invest in bitcoin is likely a breach of fiduciary duty.
Taking that risk, with nearly zero control over the outcome, is not prudent & responsible financial behavior.
Holding the line on prices to maintain absolute margins, but not proportionally so, could easily be called both good corporate citizenship & good will to stakeholders known as consumers.
It's a misinterpretation on 90s B-School curriculum that there is a legal duty to maximize profits no matter what.
The laws say no such thing.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)Suddenly the ceo is the shareholder ..
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)CEOs don't actually get control of the shares. By law, the shares are voted on by the whole board, which admittedly could be incestuous. And, no one person can release them for sale, and the approved offerings for sale are highly regulated.
And, while I see some value to maintaining substantial treasury stocks, I don't approve of the massive versions we've seen in the last several years.
It actually became a board priority in the 80s, especially in midsized corporations as a defense against corporate raiders & a hedge against arbitrage.
Lesser evil, so to speak.
But, it's clearly being abused in recent years, effectively done to reduce shares available for trading. Reducing supply to boost stock price. It's intention has morphed into getting bigger bonuses for the executives.
rockfordfile
(8,695 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)...folks who manage the exchanges who have plunge protection mechanisms but, no braking system for unwarranted panic bidding. (Example: crude prices rising by nearly 25% over a potential 3% shortfall of supply, when the other 97% is running well under capacity.)
Yes, the refiners benefit from unjustifiable crude prices, and they benefit from rampant speculation (read as gambling) on refined cost. Yes, the instantly passing on windfall dollars to investors instead of spending capital on supply enhancements is worth a grilling. Yes, the fact that they ALL nearly did this is pretty suspicious. (Smells like collusion.)
But, the oil execs will simply state they don't control prices, and they'd be telling the truth. Not sure we'll either learn or change anything.
I think it more interesting to find out what it takes to rattle the speculative traders & the exchange managers.
If they're not part of this fact finding testimony, then the Senate is doing it wrong.
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)They were illegal through most of the 1900s until the Reagan administration made them legal again and opened the doors for stock manipulation and now enormous bonuses and wealth for corporate CEOs while workers pay remains essentially unchanged for decades.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)ClarkJonathanKent
(91 posts)Is Schumer going to actually offer a critique of Capitalism? Is he going to propose a specific piece of legislation to actually prevent price gauging or exorbitant excess profits? Or is he just going to hope that public testimony will somehow magically result in oil CEOs feeling shame and then voluntarily reduce prices and profits?
BlueCheeseAgain
(1,654 posts)Why do gasoline prices go up like a rocket, and down like a feather?
Emile
(22,480 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)crickets
(25,952 posts)I'd drop everything and pop the popcorn for it. Give her a whiteboard and Katie Porter can eviscerate them all.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)We MUST keep the Senate in the midterms.
WarGamer
(12,354 posts)tclambert
(11,084 posts)"No, we didn't know cigarettes are addictive! Honest."
kacekwl
(7,013 posts)Feet to fire.
XanaDUer2
(10,497 posts)wanda4rafi
(92 posts)She will get them twisting in the wind faster than anyone.