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zuul

(14,624 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 03:58 PM Mar 2022

Sen Schumer announces that CEOs of major oil companies will be called to testify before Congress.

Chuck Schumer @SenSchumer

Instead of lowering gas prices, Big Oil companies are using their soaring profits to reward their shareholders with stock buybacks. That is wrong. Today, I’m announcing that we will be calling the CEOs of major oil companies to testify before Congress.


2:49 PM · Mar 16, 2022


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Sen Schumer announces that CEOs of major oil companies will be called to testify before Congress. (Original Post) zuul Mar 2022 OP
K&R 2naSalit Mar 2022 #1
Goody dweller Mar 2022 #2
I certainly hope so! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #4
Good! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #3
Put this down as example 5,456,675 of things that would NEVER happen maxrandb Mar 2022 #5
Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2022 #6
Another "Try to embarrass a CEO" Tour? Brainfodder Mar 2022 #7
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What line ForgedCrank Mar 2022 #30
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Well if someone ForgedCrank Mar 2022 #36
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And what's wrong with a little finger wagging anyway? Salviati Mar 2022 #53
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Yes, and Disaffected Mar 2022 #38
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Look it up yourself and report back. Disaffected Mar 2022 #43
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Ya, I don't need no Disaffected Mar 2022 #55
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Nice moving the goal posts Disaffected Mar 2022 #57
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Seize their yacht, condos, and offshore bank accounts! Justice matters. Mar 2022 #48
under what legal action? WarGamer Mar 2022 #51
Here: Justice matters. Mar 2022 #60
not applicable. WarGamer Mar 2022 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #70
I see it as publicly embarrassing them for their greed wryter2000 Mar 2022 #40
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Umm companies can buyback I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #64
Please, Schumer, designate Katie Porter as the official interrogator and have the Senate submit Karadeniz Mar 2022 #8
Yes please! zuul Mar 2022 #9
Katie Porter with her white board. Tacan Mar 2022 #19
Absolutely!!!! The fossils would blanch!!! Karadeniz Mar 2022 #46
We've seen this act before. Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #10
A few careful investments by oil firms towards re-election efforts... RainCaster Mar 2022 #24
It's called Price Gouging... why is everyone afraid to use the term? Number9Dream Mar 2022 #11
Good! SergeStorms Mar 2022 #12
EXCELLENT!!! calimary Mar 2022 #13
Thanks Sen Schumer! Hekate Mar 2022 #14
yes larwdem Mar 2022 #16
Rt 💕TY Cha Mar 2022 #17
everything else in the economy is flat except for the energy sector . how many of u remember AllaN01Bear Mar 2022 #18
"do us all a favor & get @RepKatiePorter and her whiteboard in there to help out!!!" orleans Mar 2022 #20
Let's regulate the price of oil and gas. BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #21
Yep, order them to sell gas a $1.00 per gallon or get thrown in jail MichMan Mar 2022 #62
I like Schumer a lot. He's a really good Sen. Maj. Leader. PatrickforB Mar 2022 #22
Can we make them draw straws and short straw gets hung? The Mouth Mar 2022 #23
Exploiting the Ukranian War by making huge windfall profits to the detriment of the nation. Martin68 Mar 2022 #25
Thank You Senator Schumer! spanone Mar 2022 #26
I' m less optimistic. It's easy for them to grill them instead of taking action themaguffin Mar 2022 #27
Don't the CEOs have a fiduciary duty to the corporations and the shareholders? marie999 Mar 2022 #28
No, That's Badly Misused ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #32
What about corporate buy backs? I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #65
That Would Be The Board ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #67
Look these oil guys don't give a rat's ass about Americans. Americans are seeing that more and more rockfordfile Mar 2022 #66
Let Me Know When They Call... ProfessorGAC Mar 2022 #29
Time to make stock buybacks illegal again. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #31
" ONLY IN AMERICA" ! monkeyman1 Mar 2022 #33
Schumer has done plenty of good but, how is this not just theater? ClarkJonathanKent Mar 2022 #35
I really want to make them explain the rockets and feathers behavior of prices. BlueCheeseAgain Mar 2022 #41
Screw this, it is time to nationalize big oil. Emile Mar 2022 #44
Call them to the house so Katie Porter can give them the once over. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #47
👆👆 I'm so for that. crickets Mar 2022 #68
Yeah, I LOVE this! BigmanPigman Mar 2022 #49
How many will appear? WarGamer Mar 2022 #50
Hey, do you thinn the CEOs will lie? tclambert Mar 2022 #52
That's great, I hope something comes of it. kacekwl Mar 2022 #59
I'm ok with this nt XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #63
Put Katie Porter in charge. wanda4rafi Mar 2022 #69

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
7. Another "Try to embarrass a CEO" Tour?
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 04:07 PM
Mar 2022

They have to by law do whatever it takes to make $ for stock holders, stock holders who often times just own stock and have no real work into the company, but they often get paid the most?

TIFU!

The imbalance in pay is why a lot of people are upset and some don't want to give great effort as a result should not be so surprising?

100M a year is $50,000 per hour for 2000 hours.








Response to Brainfodder (Reply #7)

ForgedCrank

(1,764 posts)
30. What line
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:20 PM
Mar 2022

is that? I don't see any law that was broken, and they are doing what companies do. Things weren't so great for them the past 6-8 years comparatively speaking.
I don't necessarily like what they are doing because it affects the economy in a very negative way, but I don't think I can support this sort of thing with government getting involved in the business dealings of private companies. Laws are what congress can do, not demanding owners show up for their caning and stoning when we don't agree with them. That's not how this should work at all, and it's a little scary to think anyone would support this sort of thing. That is one thing that is different between us and the Russians and Chinese.

Response to ForgedCrank (Reply #30)

ForgedCrank

(1,764 posts)
36. Well if someone
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:57 PM
Mar 2022

believes they are actually breaking a law, I would support a law enforcement investigation into those accusation. Of course, I have not seen any evidence whatsoever of a crime here.
I most certainly do not support dragging private citizens into a congressional hearing just to wag fingers at them live on TV.
There is more than one political party, and ours won't be in charge forever. Something we always need to remember. I do not support politicians behaving in this manner, it is crossing lines that should not be crossed.

Response to ForgedCrank (Reply #36)

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
53. And what's wrong with a little finger wagging anyway?
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 07:05 PM
Mar 2022

I believe that there is behavior that we should consider to be immoral, that we should not make illegal. There are things that we as a society want to discourage, but that we should not make laws against, because they would be impossible to enforce, or we wouldn't want to become the society we'd need to become in order to enforce them. In such cases if the offending behavior is seen as undesirable by a majority then shame and public pressure can be effective enforcement mechanisms, but for that to work, the offending party needs to be shamed in public.

Response to Salviati (Reply #53)

Disaffected

(4,545 posts)
38. Yes, and
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:05 PM
Mar 2022

one sees few tears of concern when oil prices are cratering and a lot of oil & gas companies and their ancillary support industries are losing large amounts of money or going bankrupt.

Response to Disaffected (Reply #38)

Disaffected

(4,545 posts)
43. Look it up yourself and report back.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:11 PM
Mar 2022

Surely you're joking that you have never heard of an O&G associated company that lost money or went bankrupt because of low oil/gas prices.....

Response to Disaffected (Reply #43)

Disaffected

(4,545 posts)
55. Ya, I don't need no
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 07:11 PM
Mar 2022

research, I know!

Here's some for you:

'Big Oil incurred record loss in 2020'

https://www.ogj.com/general-interest/economics-markets/article/14197855/big-oil-incurred-record-loss-in-2020

And, how 'bout all the O & G associated companies such as drilling, testing and servicing plus a myriad of smaller independents that lost money or went belly up??

Gotta laugh indeed.


Response to Disaffected (Reply #55)

Disaffected

(4,545 posts)
57. Nice moving the goal posts
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 07:18 PM
Mar 2022

there Bucko.

"When's the last year oil companies lost money?"

And, yeah, they and their accountants are all tax crooks as well....

Response to Disaffected (Reply #57)

Justice matters.

(6,918 posts)
48. Seize their yacht, condos, and offshore bank accounts!
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:32 PM
Mar 2022

THAT would teach them not to abuse their freedumbs...

Justice matters.

(6,918 posts)
60. Here:
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 07:35 PM
Mar 2022
Federal Price Gouging Enforcement Update

... the Department of Justice and other executive agencies acting under the Defense Production Act (the “DPA”), a law passed in 1950 in response to the Korean War which gives the president broad authority to manage domestic industrial affairs in the interest of “national defense.” While originally enacted in wartime and more commonly employed to regulate certain foreign investment into U.S. businesses, authority extends to the Executive Branch to act in response to national emergencies like COVID-19.


https://www.mindingyourbusinesslitigation.com/2020/07/federal-price-gouging-enforcement-update/

One could think harsh measures on these fat cats would be so unpopular for voters... /sarcasm

Response to Justice matters. (Reply #60)

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
40. I see it as publicly embarrassing them for their greed
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:08 PM
Mar 2022

And letting the public know what’s going on so they know who to blame for the prices. Certainly, no one is going to press charges against the CEO’s.

Response to wryter2000 (Reply #40)

Karadeniz

(22,470 posts)
8. Please, Schumer, designate Katie Porter as the official interrogator and have the Senate submit
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 04:12 PM
Mar 2022

their questions to her...assuming you want to get anywhere!

RainCaster

(10,834 posts)
24. A few careful investments by oil firms towards re-election efforts...
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:04 PM
Mar 2022

... and all this will go away, just like it always does.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
12. Good!
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 04:52 PM
Mar 2022

And don't allow them to filibuster with their "it's clean energy" bullshit.

Go after 'em, Democrats!

AllaN01Bear

(17,987 posts)
18. everything else in the economy is flat except for the energy sector . how many of u remember
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 04:55 PM
Mar 2022

the tarp hearings when big corps begged for money? now , gee i wonder why. maybe their super luxery yachts as well. we shall see. when these investigations are announced , they dissapear.

PatrickforB

(14,558 posts)
22. I like Schumer a lot. He's a really good Sen. Maj. Leader.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:03 PM
Mar 2022

If any of you have him as you Senator, can you call his staff (I will be calling my own Senators, for sure) and suggest we force changes in corporate charters to a stakeholder approach to corporate governance, rather than profits over people (shareholder primacy), which is what we have now. And which is why so many CEOs engage in sociopathic behavior. Shareholder primacy encourages that.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
28. Don't the CEOs have a fiduciary duty to the corporations and the shareholders?
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:13 PM
Mar 2022

I know its greed, but isn't it a law?

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
32. No, That's Badly Misused
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:23 PM
Mar 2022

They have a fiduciary interest to manage cash flow & capital in a way that serves the company's best interest.
They do not have a legal obligation to maximize profits by any means & under all circumstances.
For instance, borrowing money from a The Hartford line of credit to invest in bitcoin is likely a breach of fiduciary duty.
Taking that risk, with nearly zero control over the outcome, is not prudent & responsible financial behavior.
Holding the line on prices to maintain absolute margins, but not proportionally so, could easily be called both good corporate citizenship & good will to stakeholders known as consumers.
It's a misinterpretation on 90s B-School curriculum that there is a legal duty to maximize profits no matter what.
The laws say no such thing.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
67. That Would Be The Board
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:55 PM
Mar 2022

CEOs don't actually get control of the shares. By law, the shares are voted on by the whole board, which admittedly could be incestuous. And, no one person can release them for sale, and the approved offerings for sale are highly regulated.
And, while I see some value to maintaining substantial treasury stocks, I don't approve of the massive versions we've seen in the last several years.
It actually became a board priority in the 80s, especially in midsized corporations as a defense against corporate raiders & a hedge against arbitrage.
Lesser evil, so to speak.
But, it's clearly being abused in recent years, effectively done to reduce shares available for trading. Reducing supply to boost stock price. It's intention has morphed into getting bigger bonuses for the executives.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
29. Let Me Know When They Call...
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:15 PM
Mar 2022

...folks who manage the exchanges who have plunge protection mechanisms but, no braking system for unwarranted panic bidding. (Example: crude prices rising by nearly 25% over a potential 3% shortfall of supply, when the other 97% is running well under capacity.)
Yes, the refiners benefit from unjustifiable crude prices, and they benefit from rampant speculation (read as gambling) on refined cost. Yes, the instantly passing on windfall dollars to investors instead of spending capital on supply enhancements is worth a grilling. Yes, the fact that they ALL nearly did this is pretty suspicious. (Smells like collusion.)
But, the oil execs will simply state they don't control prices, and they'd be telling the truth. Not sure we'll either learn or change anything.
I think it more interesting to find out what it takes to rattle the speculative traders & the exchange managers.
If they're not part of this fact finding testimony, then the Senate is doing it wrong.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
31. Time to make stock buybacks illegal again.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:21 PM
Mar 2022

They were illegal through most of the 1900s until the Reagan administration made them legal again and opened the doors for stock manipulation and now enormous bonuses and wealth for corporate CEOs while workers’ pay remains essentially unchanged for decades.

35. Schumer has done plenty of good but, how is this not just theater?
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 05:43 PM
Mar 2022

Is Schumer going to actually offer a critique of Capitalism? Is he going to propose a specific piece of legislation to actually prevent price gauging or exorbitant excess profits? Or is he just going to hope that public testimony will somehow magically result in oil CEOs feeling shame and then voluntarily reduce prices and profits?

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
41. I really want to make them explain the rockets and feathers behavior of prices.
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:10 PM
Mar 2022

Why do gasoline prices go up like a rocket, and down like a feather?

crickets

(25,952 posts)
68. 👆👆 I'm so for that.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 06:24 PM
Mar 2022

I'd drop everything and pop the popcorn for it. Give her a whiteboard and Katie Porter can eviscerate them all.

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