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Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:24 PM Mar 2022

'Incels' are a rising threat in the US, Secret Service report finds

A new US Secret Service report details a rising threat from men who identify as “involuntary celibates” or “incels”, due to their inability to form intimate relationships with women.

The report released on Tuesday and prepared by the National Threat Assessment Center (NTAC) highlights behavioral threat assessment themes identified in years of research examining targeted violence.

Themes include concerning and threatening communications, concerning online content, chronic and acute stressors, elicited concern in others, interpersonal difficulties, history of being bullied, financial instability, failed life aspirations and lack of consequences.

As a case study, the Secret Service examined a 2018 shooting at a yoga class in Tallahassee, Florida, in which a man killed two women and wounded six.

“The attacker was motivated to carry out violence by his inability to develop or maintain relationships with women, along with his perception of women’s societal power over men,” the report said.

The gunman, 40-year-old Scott Paul Beierle, exhibited numerous warning signs including a history of inappropriate and criminal behavior toward women and girls.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/16/involuntary-celibates-incels-threat-us-secret-service
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Lotta man-babies out there....and they're armed

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'Incels' are a rising threat in the US, Secret Service report finds (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Mar 2022 OP
We noticed catrose Mar 2022 #1
Mostly... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #2
So, these guys attack women over not gettng laid and wonder why they can't get laid? Chainfire Mar 2022 #3
Hey, incels! gay texan Mar 2022 #4
We have been sexual animals since before we even ascended the trees.... Chainfire Mar 2022 #6
extreme sense of entitlement treestar Mar 2022 #5
Castrate these pigs I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #7
That's an "idea." harumph Mar 2022 #8
I suppose I should be thankful that I just can't understand where these guys are coming from Torchlight Mar 2022 #9
Poor babies vercetti2021 Mar 2022 #10
Ummm I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #11
Oh you'd make em cry vercetti2021 Mar 2022 #13
Will they cry I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #16
Marry me vercetti2021 Mar 2022 #17
It's a toxic internet phenomenon Azathoth Mar 2022 #12
"Send me a naked selfie and maybe I'll invite you to my basement struggle4progress Mar 2022 #14
That sounds terrifying vercetti2021 Mar 2022 #18
Why can't these guys order those expensive "love dolls"? milestogo Mar 2022 #15
Two of their ilk: Kyle Rittenhouse and George Zimmerman live love laugh Mar 2022 #19
The teenypeenie brigade Jilly_in_VA Mar 2022 #21
... Hugin Mar 2022 #22
I'm watching "Fight Club" for the first time and it's an interesting movie. betsuni Mar 2022 #20

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
2. Mostly...
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:39 PM
Mar 2022

This...

Themes include concerning and threatening communications, concerning online content, chronic and acute stressors, elicited concern in others, interpersonal difficulties, history of being bullied, financial instability, failed life aspirations and lack of consequences.


The rest are themes, the bolded part is the main feature of the problem.

Chainfire

(17,467 posts)
3. So, these guys attack women over not gettng laid and wonder why they can't get laid?
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:40 PM
Mar 2022

We have a nice place for people like that, free room and board, three squares, and no women around to disturb them.

gay texan

(2,435 posts)
4. Hey, incels!
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:40 PM
Mar 2022

Cant get laid? The ladies dont notice you? Horny with no outlet?

Here's a handy life hack tech tip from a gay guy:

You're an egotistical asshole that thinks you're entitled to sex whenever you want it, and you think the opposite sex are second class to you, a manly man.

Guess what, women dont like that shit.

Chainfire

(17,467 posts)
6. We have been sexual animals since before we even ascended the trees....
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:49 PM
Mar 2022

Most of us have figured out how to develop relationships; I mean, it is just about hardwired into us....My secret weapon was always kindness, caring and sharing...

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. extreme sense of entitlement
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 06:46 PM
Mar 2022
On the day of the shooting, Beierle left a note in his hotel room that said: “If I can’t find one decent female to live with, I will find many indecent females to die with. If they are intent on denying me life, I will have no choice, but to deny them life … Their arrogance, indifference and treachery will finally be exposed and punished.”

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
7. Castrate these pigs
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 07:52 PM
Mar 2022

With no balls thier sex drives diminish. With no dick and sitting down to pee they would be less likely to rape.

Id rather see incels in single cells alone. But still castrate them.

Torchlight

(3,293 posts)
9. I suppose I should be thankful that I just can't understand where these guys are coming from
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 08:28 PM
Mar 2022

Sometimes, when reading about serial or spree killers, or the doctors who performed unethical experiments on the Jewish population, or other vile people, I am often astounded by my own ignorance of what exactly it is that grabs, and then compels them to engage in such anti-social actions.

There's a little part of me that would be fascinated to wear their brains (for lack of a vocabulary) for just a moment or two and trying to understand the contrast between how (and why) I react to things as I do versus how (and especially why) they react as they do. Then I realize it's just as well-- some things I'm just better off not knowing.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
10. Poor babies
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 08:39 PM
Mar 2022

I follow a reddit called inceltear and jesus these losers are so pathetic and insecure. They not only hate women. They hate trans women. (Thank god) they hate anyone that is over 6 feet tall, any guy that might be a half way decent human really.

In all. They feel entitled, they are what the right constantly recruits since they are an easy group to persuade. They find a belonging with them.

All and all. Losers to the very end. And theyll always be losers.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
11. Ummm
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 08:48 PM
Mar 2022

I am over 6 ft. tall well 6'1"..
I am transgender,
A ftm transgender that identifies as male/ androgyny. I am a liberal.
I dispise asshole 45.

And worst of all I am asexual.

I think they'd really hate me.lol.

Good.

I hate incels too a strong
visceral hatred.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
13. Oh you'd make em cry
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 08:59 PM
Mar 2022

I love you for that lol I'm just happy they hate me since I would never ever date those freaks

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
12. It's a toxic internet phenomenon
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 08:59 PM
Mar 2022

There have always been "incels", and most of them are relatively sympathetic characters: guys who are excessively shy, or awkward, or ugly, or live/work in areas where there isn't a lot of dating opportunity.

Traditionally, these guys would lead lonely, depressing lives, maybe cushioned by one or two same-sex friendships.

On the internet, however, a small slice of entitled sociopaths can exploit them, planting hateful ideas and creating a dynamic where the community constantly reinforce and stoke each other's sense of entitlement and resentment.

struggle4progress

(118,224 posts)
14. "Send me a naked selfie and maybe I'll invite you to my basement
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 09:15 PM
Mar 2022

to see myStar Wars posters, my Ayn Rand library, and my guns-and-porn videos!"

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
15. Why can't these guys order those expensive "love dolls"?
Wed Mar 16, 2022, 09:27 PM
Mar 2022

They can't say no, and they'll stay forever. They won't even call the police on you.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,941 posts)
21. The teenypeenie brigade
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:32 AM
Mar 2022

Substituting guns for their male sexual organ. And the really disgusting thing about these guys is that they only want the "Stacy" females...an average female won't do, although they themselves are supremely average, or below.

Hugin

(33,047 posts)
22. ...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:38 AM
Mar 2022

Thank you for bringing the "Stacy" into my awareness. Yeah, the neck-beards all want a Stacy. Always more than they can afford.

betsuni

(25,377 posts)
20. I'm watching "Fight Club" for the first time and it's an interesting movie.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:06 AM
Mar 2022

Made before it became easier for these men to find each other online.

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