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Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:31 AM Oct 2012

The Cultists Lose Their Minds After Barack Obama Says Ayn Rand is for Teenagers

There are not enough fainting couches to handle this one.
October 26, 2012 |

The election's tight, so the racket is to yell "we're winning" in a loud voice till the votes are counted. (And if you have a little lung power left over, bitch about the liberal media.) We that have free souls, it touches us not, and we take our pleasures where we can. I'm enjoying the brethren's reaction to Obama'sRolling Stone interview -- especially the Ayn Rand bit:

[Obama:] Ayn Rand is one of those things that a lot of us, when we were 17 or 18 and feeling misunderstood, we'd pick up. Then, as we get older, we realize that a world in which we're only thinking about ourselves and not thinking about anybody else, in which we're considering the entire project of developing ourselves as more important than our relationships to other people and making sure that everybody else has opportunity – that that's a pretty narrow vision. It's not one that, I think, describes what's best in America. Unfortunately, it does seem as if sometimes that vision of a "you're on your own" society has consumed a big chunk of the Republican Party.


Yeah, you can guess. Let's start with Katrina Trinko, National Review's current delegate from the Youth of Today:

Sure, there’s a few libertarians who would love to abolish the safety net and slash government programs. But that’s not the party platform, or what Romney is setting out to do. Not to mention that plenty of conservatives would rather establish a safety net more concentrated, not in individuals’, but in other types of community: church, clubs, extended family.


You know, like in the Middle Ages.

But listen, it's not all deep analysis. Look at what I found at Objectivism for Intellectuals:


Just because they stim instead of laughing doesn't mean they don't have a sense of humor.

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/cultists-lose-their-minds-after-barack-obama-says-ayn-rand-teenagers?page=0%2C1&paging=off
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The Cultists Lose Their Minds After Barack Obama Says Ayn Rand is for Teenagers (Original Post) Canuckistanian Oct 2012 OP
Your title incorrectly assumes they have minds to begin with... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #1
True.... Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #2
"The Cultists Lose Their Minds After Barack Obama Says Ayn Rand is for Teenagers" BlueCaliDem Oct 2012 #3
Except for when I was a teen myself, I've always thought those Randites were a nasty bunch of Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #4
I played Bioshock instead of actually reading her tripe Occulus Oct 2012 #6
Bioshock was an AWESOME game! Curtland1015 Oct 2012 #7
Well, you piqued my interest and I read a little about the Bioshock-Ayn Rand connection. Here's a Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #8
I love the subtext loyalsister Oct 2012 #5

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
2. True....
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:45 AM
Oct 2012

Well, they have minds, but they're stunted from decades of propaganda stemming from Randian "philosophy"

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. "The Cultists Lose Their Minds After Barack Obama Says Ayn Rand is for Teenagers"
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:48 AM
Oct 2012

And then prove the president correct.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
4. Except for when I was a teen myself, I've always thought those Randites were a nasty bunch of
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:42 AM
Oct 2012

selfish bastards pretending Ayn Rand provided a valid excuse for their selfishness. Now that I've become somewhat familiar with what a despicable excuse for a human being Rand cult member Paul Ryan is, I'm even more convinced they're a nasty bunch of selfish bastards trying to rationalize their their self-centered delusions.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
6. I played Bioshock instead of actually reading her tripe
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:58 AM
Oct 2012

despite a life of opportunity in which to do so. As since I first heard of her, I simply don't have the time to give her.

I'm told by those who have both played the game and read her books that Bioshock is a brilliant deconstruction of her so-called philosophy:

"I am Andrew Ryan, and I'm here to ask you a question:
is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.'
'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.'
'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...

Rapture.

A city where the artist would not fear the censor,
where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality,
where the great would not be constrained by the small!

And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well."

- Bioshock

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
7. Bioshock was an AWESOME game!
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 04:33 AM
Oct 2012

...and yes, I did try reading Atlas Shrugged after I finished it to see how the game's themes fit with her writings.

I got about two hundred pages in and said "Well, SCREW THIS." and tossed the book.

Terrible garbage.

Still... GREAT game!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
8. Well, you piqued my interest and I read a little about the Bioshock-Ayn Rand connection. Here's a
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:41 AM
Oct 2012

piece with some good discussion in the comments:
http://littlebobeep.com/2010/bioshock-ayn-rand/

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