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Arnold Schwarzenegger has a heartfelt message for Russians (Original Post) mainer Mar 2022 OP
"There are moments like this... Kid Berwyn Mar 2022 #1
A very moving message Zambero Mar 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #3
Good post Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #47
Very powerful message from Schwarzenegger. secondwind Mar 2022 #4
Excellent work! Very well written. Walleye Mar 2022 #5
How will Russians see this? intrepidity Mar 2022 #6
Yep, very few will actually see this KS Toronado Mar 2022 #15
Hopefully they will take some sense that the world outside does see the difference. Ford_Prefect Mar 2022 #34
He said he was using several channels, in whatever sense that means. Since he is media-savvy... Hekate Mar 2022 #59
Good, I hope it penetrates nt intrepidity Mar 2022 #62
God bless him (from someone who used to hate him). Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #7
Effing amazing (NT) CommonHumanity Mar 2022 #8
Thank you, Arnold. That was magnificent. Goodheart Mar 2022 #9
BEAUTIFUL ... Thanks!!! 🌻 👍 nt Raine Mar 2022 #10
That couldn't be better BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #11
Excellent!! I hope this reaches some people who have yet to be convinced. Tadpole Raisin Mar 2022 #12
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #13
I wasn't expecting to cry, but I did. Aristus Mar 2022 #14
Me too! WVreaper Mar 2022 #46
Arnold has earned my grudging respect over the last few years Redleg Mar 2022 #16
His own family history would have wnylib Mar 2022 #28
I've had a similar experience over time. crickets Mar 2022 #33
He also gave money to build small homes for the homeless in LA. Liberty Belle Mar 2022 #39
Excellent. Radio Free Europe still broadcasts, right? brush Mar 2022 #17
KNR. Tears here for this amazing message. This is the Arnold I met so many niyad Mar 2022 #18
I bet Arnold has many fans in Russia nuxvomica Mar 2022 #19
puking's pantomime of machismo. excellent description. niyad Mar 2022 #20
A great governor of California he is not, but he is a master of the messenge of reason! ffr Mar 2022 #21
He's older and wiser now. Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #41
Wow! What a masterful and emotional message! Fla Dem Mar 2022 #22
Arnold uses his talent to its greatest effect ever. dchill Mar 2022 #23
Love Arnie Mr. Sparkle Mar 2022 #24
Blah Blah Blah Soxderrube Mar 2022 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #30
Seriously, you reactivated to tell a Democratic discussion board that, Soxderrube? Hekate Mar 2022 #56
Hit and run poster. So brave. Javaman Mar 2022 #66
Oh my ismnotwasm Mar 2022 #71
Well done! Martin68 Mar 2022 #26
Wonderful and powerful message from Governor Schwarzenegger peggysue2 Mar 2022 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #29
Vote Arnold for President of Russia!! n/t rainin Mar 2022 #31
I approve this message NBachers Mar 2022 #32
He did a great job of establishing rapport Fresh_Start Mar 2022 #35
Judging by the power of his previous messages, especially the ones on fascism, he writes his own... Hekate Mar 2022 #60
Thank you Arnold. You have a good heart. A "tour" to the region if you're into it? Might make an Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #37
same message could benefit markie Mar 2022 #38
Great emotional resonance Wild blueberry Mar 2022 #40
It's something of a surprise that he had this in him. NNadir Mar 2022 #42
Having heard his previous message to Americans regarding the rise of home-grown fascism... Hekate Mar 2022 #61
I've seen it. Old men at the end of their lives have a way of reconnecting with their youth. NNadir Mar 2022 #65
Out of the blue, the man steps up to the plate AnotherDreamWeaver Mar 2022 #43
Thank You mainer. Magoo48 Mar 2022 #44
Wow, well done Arnold! FakeNoose Mar 2022 #45
Arnold at his best grantcart Mar 2022 #48
wow! THANK YOU, Arnold - bluboid Mar 2022 #49
That has to be the best work that Arnold has ever done in front of a camera. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2022 #50
Sharing far & wide... Satch59 Mar 2022 #51
Best speech I've seen him give by far. onecaliberal Mar 2022 #52
Zelinski's father's three brothers were murdered by the Nazis (3:40 - 3:50) Earthrise Mar 2022 #53
Actually it was his great grandfather and uncles TexasBushwhacker Mar 2022 #72
This is the way to end wars. Collimator Mar 2022 #54
As I read what you wrote below, Collimator, I immediately thought summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #67
Wow, that was perfect! n/t EndlessWire Mar 2022 #55
WOW !!! broiles Mar 2022 #57
My former Governator has earned a lot of respect from me over the last several years... Hekate Mar 2022 #58
Even though he was a Republican politician, Arnie was never one of the crazy ones localroger Mar 2022 #63
Schwartzenegger made a video on fascism one year ago, after the 1-6 Insurrection. Posted here.... Hekate Mar 2022 #64
I had not seen that til just now - thanks for posting Alice Kramden Mar 2022 #69
Such an important message - Alice Kramden Mar 2022 #68
Good message, well delivered. lpbk2713 Mar 2022 #70
This is brilliant. SunSeeker Mar 2022 #73
Re-tweeted. Thank you Arnold. GoneOffShore Mar 2022 #74
Ah, now I see. intrepidity Mar 2022 #75

Kid Berwyn

(14,897 posts)
1. "There are moments like this...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:46 AM
Mar 2022

…when we have to speak up.”

Thank you, Mainer! Thank you, Gov. Schwarzenegger!

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
2. A very moving message
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:50 AM
Mar 2022

Hopefully, it will get through to the Russian soldiers and citizens who need to hear it.

Response to mainer (Original post)

Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #36)

intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
6. How will Russians see this?
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 09:56 AM
Mar 2022

I fear that the only ones who will, are those savvy enough to bypass Putin's control, but they already know all this.

KS Toronado

(17,220 posts)
15. Yep, very few will actually see this
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:43 AM
Mar 2022

Maybe Anonymous could step in to help spread it. Plus IMO it could be a little shorter.

Hekate

(90,673 posts)
59. He said he was using several channels, in whatever sense that means. Since he is media-savvy...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:12 PM
Mar 2022

… (I would say, very media savvy, with access to the best) I am quite sure this message is not playing solely on You Tube and Twitter or solely in the US.

Redleg

(5,814 posts)
16. Arnold has earned my grudging respect over the last few years
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:45 AM
Mar 2022

First, his criticism of Trump and Trumpism, his concern for the environment and climate, his outspoken views on Covid, and now his heartfelt attempt to reach out to the Russian people. I can say this his video messages always seem earnest and thoughtful, showing deep passion and understanding for the issues. I appreciate what he has done.

crickets

(25,969 posts)
33. I've had a similar experience over time.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:08 PM
Mar 2022

I don't think much of his political career, but as a conscientious private citizen, he has his moments. Statements like this one, ones made from his home during Covid, and the one he made after Jan 6 are truly thoughtful and admirable.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
39. He also gave money to build small homes for the homeless in LA.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:34 PM
Mar 2022

Unlike some politicians who are motivated by greed and self interest after leaving office, Arnold has become a humanitarian and is a far better ex-Governor than he ever was as Governor.

This was a heartfelt message. I hope he can find a way to get it seen by the Russian people.

This moved me to tears at the end, where he tells the Russian people protesting the war that they are his new heroes.

brush

(53,776 posts)
17. Excellent. Radio Free Europe still broadcasts, right?
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:49 AM
Mar 2022

And I hear there are similar networks that broadcast. I hope this message gets out widely into Russia.

niyad

(113,284 posts)
18. KNR. Tears here for this amazing message. This is the Arnold I met so many
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:54 AM
Mar 2022

years ago.

May this be heard by all.

nuxvomica

(12,422 posts)
19. I bet Arnold has many fans in Russia
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:56 AM
Mar 2022

And that he would be for them a symbol of strength, so what he says may just break through, as part of Puking's support is tied to the dictator's pantomimes of machismo. Good on Arnold for doing this!

Soxderrube

(37 posts)
25. Blah Blah Blah
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 11:22 AM
Mar 2022

Why did he not speak out against Bushco when he did the same. ALL political and religious leaders are "LIARS"

Response to Soxderrube (Reply #25)

Hekate

(90,673 posts)
56. Seriously, you reactivated to tell a Democratic discussion board that, Soxderrube?
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:01 PM
Mar 2022

I’m sure there’s somewhere you can (or have been) peddling the line that ‘ ALL political and religious leaders are "LIARS" ‘ but somehow I don’t think that broad tar-brush is going to go over that well here.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
27. Wonderful and powerful message from Governor Schwarzenegger
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 11:37 AM
Mar 2022

Heartfelt from a friend of the Russian people.

Here's hoping his inspiring words are heard. Actually made me choke up.

to the Gov!

Response to mainer (Original post)

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
35. He did a great job of establishing rapport
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:28 PM
Mar 2022

and a wonderful message overall.

Does he have a speechwriter or is this his own work?

Hekate

(90,673 posts)
60. Judging by the power of his previous messages, especially the ones on fascism, he writes his own...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:23 PM
Mar 2022

“I grew up in Austria, after WWII. It was a country of broken men who were full of shrapnels and shame.”

That, of course, is just a fragment from memory — but you can surely find the whole thing on You Tube.



Evolve Dammit

(16,725 posts)
37. Thank you Arnold. You have a good heart. A "tour" to the region if you're into it? Might make an
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 12:32 PM
Mar 2022

even bigger difference. Media outlets (those allowed) would carry your message

NNadir

(33,515 posts)
42. It's something of a surprise that he had this in him.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 01:27 PM
Mar 2022

I have no idea how it will reach a Russian audience, but to the extent it does, it is powerful.

Hekate

(90,673 posts)
61. Having heard his previous message to Americans regarding the rise of home-grown fascism...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:28 PM
Mar 2022

…. I am not at all surprised. Recommend it if you can find it.







NNadir

(33,515 posts)
65. I've seen it. Old men at the end of their lives have a way of reconnecting with their youth.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 08:59 PM
Mar 2022

At least this old man, the old man I am, finds himself suddenly remembering his childhood, his parents, passed family, friends lost, loves lost, critical mistakes, time lost to frivolity.

Schwarzenegger was born in 1947; he's 74.

At the end of one's life, facing one's own failures and moments that one did not live up to one's ideals, one develops sympathies for all the others who failed in their ideals. That's my experience anyway; I'm always trying to find an excuse to forgive myself by projecting on to others.

Perhaps Arnold has found the grace to project on to his father, a wounded Nazi soldier, that kind of understanding, and to warn those Russian kids that this may be their fate, the fate of his father.

It's a gracious effort; worthy of an old man. He has lived.

Good on him.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
48. Arnold at his best
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:37 PM
Mar 2022

For some reason I can't help but compare AS statesmanship to Kyrsten Sinema's lack of it.

bluboid

(560 posts)
49. wow! THANK YOU, Arnold -
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:43 PM
Mar 2022

& THANK YOU DU for providing this forum!

I am in tears - this is the most brilliant anti-war speech I've ever heard. it's straight from the heart.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
50. That has to be the best work that Arnold has ever done in front of a camera.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 03:51 PM
Mar 2022

Eloquent and sincere...not to mention heart-wrenching at times. Wonderful!

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
51. Sharing far & wide...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 04:08 PM
Mar 2022

He’s posting this on many different channels, including Telegram where I read Putin can’t block it? Would be amazing if this starts a trend with other popular celebrities in Russia. Read that Metallica was doing the same, getting messages out to their many Russian fans.

This was amazing. I remember his video after 1/6, also moving…

Earthrise

(15,522 posts)
53. Zelinski's father's three brothers were murdered by the Nazis (3:40 - 3:50)
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 04:18 PM
Mar 2022

The memory of Zelinski's righteous uncles is a blessing.

Now I understand more about the source of Zelinski's strength - his father, his family, his faith.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
54. This is the way to end wars.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 04:41 PM
Mar 2022

Not by demonizing the everyday people in other countries who are just trying to live their lives. No matter how differently we may see the world, most people want the same basic things. These things include safety and dignity for themselves and their loved ones.

We need to criticize the leaders and the systems that deny basic rights and comforts to their own people and threaten or actively attack people in other countries trying to achieve those same ends.

The Russian people are people, just that. Some of them may hold appalling ideas based on slanted information that they have received. Some of them are more savvy and have sought out other sources of information. And some of them are tired and beaten down by life in a confusing world and are not sure what to do or what to believe. They may be apathetic, but they aren't specifically evil.

Every one of those things is true of Americans, as well. To the Russian people I, too, will say: I do not hate you and wish you peace and justice. As for that guy, Putin, who is calling the shots in your country, well, he knows what he can do with himself.

And may your sons and daughters leave Ukraine in peace and return home in safety.

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
67. As I read what you wrote below, Collimator, I immediately thought
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 10:42 PM
Mar 2022

of the many poor deluded Americans who have been manipulated, who are tired and beaten down. Thank you for making that connection. Many aren't evil, they just have been influenced by those they are around, or by the disinformation broadcast repeatedly.


The Russian people are people, just that. Some of them may hold appalling ideas based on slanted information that they have received. Some of them are more savvy and have sought out other sources of information. And some of them are tired and beaten down by life in a confusing world and are not sure what to do or what to believe. They may be apathetic, but they aren't specifically evil.

Hekate

(90,673 posts)
58. My former Governator has earned a lot of respect from me over the last several years...
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:07 PM
Mar 2022

He’s a man of considerable depth and insight. I thank him and salute him.

localroger

(3,626 posts)
63. Even though he was a Republican politician, Arnie was never one of the crazy ones
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 05:54 PM
Mar 2022

He's always had a leaning toward freedom and tolerance which often shows through in his movies. This is not an unexpected message from him, but it is welcome and powerful and I hope it can be spread far and wide throughout Russia.

Hekate

(90,673 posts)
64. Schwartzenegger made a video on fascism one year ago, after the 1-6 Insurrection. Posted here....
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 06:11 PM
Mar 2022

Several seem surprised by his new statement — if you had see this, you would not be. This is deep, and amazing.




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intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
75. Ah, now I see.
Fri Mar 18, 2022, 04:11 PM
Mar 2022
Mr. Schwarzenegger’s Twitter account, at the time of his video post, was among just 22 followed by the Russian president’s account.
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