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What has happened to truth? (Original Post) cilla4progress Mar 2022 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #1
Down the drain along with gingrich. elleng Mar 2022 #2
Many people (most?) have always wanted to make an easy buck. herding cats Mar 2022 #3
Absolutely cilla4progress Mar 2022 #4
Libertarianism run amok. halfulglas Mar 2022 #5
Experience has taught me KentuckyWoman Mar 2022 #7
People who don't know how to counter Cognitive bias's yet or those who wont even admit they exist uponit7771 Mar 2022 #6
She was young canetoad Mar 2022 #8
The US ha become more mean, cruel and dishonest? Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #9
Lies have been around since the dawn of humanity, but... Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2022 #10
You think you have seen it ALL........& THEN THERE IS MORE..MORE AND MORE!!!! Stuart G Mar 2022 #11

Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
3. Many people (most?) have always wanted to make an easy buck.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:11 AM
Mar 2022

Sadly, forever there have been charlatans willing to sell snake oil to those wanting to believe in something good.

She was just a modern day snake oil salesperson, a con artist on a large scale.

cilla4progress

(24,731 posts)
4. Absolutely
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:44 AM
Mar 2022

Substitute religion, racism, whatever for the Edison (mini-lab). Product doesn't matter. It's all about the grift.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
5. Libertarianism run amok.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:20 AM
Mar 2022

If there are no strong rules and regulations to require ethical behavior and transparency (truth) and a level playing field when it comes to making a buck in a way something is going on with people's brains. You cannot depend on people being honest. That's why Christianity lists greed as one of the deadly sins (but a whole lot of Christians ignore that part of their faith).

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
7. Experience has taught me
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:28 AM
Mar 2022

Anyone who makes a point of telling me their religion or religious beliefs is looking for a way to separate me from my money

canetoad

(17,157 posts)
8. She was young
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 03:15 AM
Mar 2022

Superficially attractive, and talked a good game.

I'm watching the same series. I want to punch her.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
10. Lies have been around since the dawn of humanity, but...
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 08:49 AM
Mar 2022

... years of Republican propaganda seems to have created a larger percentage of Americans who are addicted to believing whatever they want to believe, in my opinion.

My very religious sister routinely ignores EVIDENCE about many issues, especially in regard to the effectiveness of her prayers -- choosing to only recall the times when there was the slightest alignment of her prayers and later outcomes, and forgetting the numerous times they did not -- and she behaves the same way in regard to politics or pretty much anything that deals with human interactions.

Evidence is only a factor in her life during daily routines that she performs -- e.g., preparing a meal and observing that food appears to be sufficiently cooked and it might burn if heated much longer. So she's clearly capable of using evidence to make choices, but she chooses to ignore evidence if it pertains to complex issues such as human behavior. That's when she repeatedly falls back on her generalizations, avoiding the discomfort of accepting when they're clearly wrong.

https://medium.com/trust-media-and-democracy/why-people-are-wired-to-believe-what-they-want-to-believe-4d9b4e161eb5

When thinking about the current political moment, it’s important to remember that as human beings we’re wired to interpret new information as confirming our beliefs and reject it if it runs counter to those beliefs.
First, there’s physiology. Sara Gorman, a public health specialist, and her father, Jack, a psychiatrist, explore this matter in their book Denying to the Grave: Why We Ignore the Facts That Will Save Us. They cite research that suggests that processing information that supports one’s beliefs leads to a dopamine rush, which creates feelings of pleasure. Moral psychologist Jonathan Haidt, author of The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion, says that “extreme partisanship may be literally addictive.”
On the flip side, “When something is inconsistent with existing beliefs, people tend to stumble. … Information that is inconsistent with one’s beliefs produces a negative affective response,” according to Norbert Schwarz, Eryn Newman and William Leach, experts in cognitive psychology.

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