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JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:25 AM Mar 2022

Dems fret Biden's inaction on student debt will burn in midterms

Politico

Youth turnout could be diminished if Gen Z and Millennials don't see executive action on student loans.

By CHRISTOPHER CADELAGO and LAURA BARRÓN-LÓPEZ

03/18/2022 06:00 PM EDT

President Joe Biden’s indecision on student loan debt could dampen turnout with a key constituency ahead of the midterms: younger voters.

While White House officials have indicated he may extend the freeze on student loan payments for the fourth time, Biden’s lack of certainty ahead of another looming deadline is causing heartburn across the president’s party.

Advocates in close touch with the White House are impatient, arguing that even if Biden ultimately moves forward with another payment suspension by the May expiration date, it’s becoming increasingly tough for them to inspire restive young voters to match their record 2020 or 2018 turnout levels. And Democratic lawmakers are pressing Biden to give millions of borrowers more than a month’s notice when deciding on an extension, which prevents them from going over a financial cliff.

The ultimate answer, both advocates and Democrats say, is for Biden to finally use his executive authority to fulfill a campaign promise to eliminate at least $10,000 in student debt for every borrower. And they’re hoping he does it before November.

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Dems fret Biden's inaction on student debt will burn in midterms (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 OP
Student debt holders of that kind need to extract heads from rears. Chicago1980 Mar 2022 #1
Lots of parents... JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 #3
Ah...the truth revealed. MineralMan Mar 2022 #25
I voted Dem all my life. JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 #26
Yeah, OK. MineralMan Mar 2022 #27
It never helps when we... JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 #29
I paid off my student loan years ago. DURHAM D Mar 2022 #2
Yes. If you paid a amount that was equal to what a student would pay... JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 #4
what is a calculus for a local community college? AlexSFCA Mar 2022 #7
I need amounts. nt JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 #12
government is not responsible for your loans AlexSFCA Mar 2022 #5
Even if you were... JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 #11
If you screwballs want any kind of future you'd better get off your butts and vote Democratic. Patterson Mar 2022 #6
As... JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 #9
Classic Politico shit stirring SYFROYH Mar 2022 #8
Always read other... JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 #10
That's my point, we don't know if they said it or had reason to say it SYFROYH Mar 2022 #18
Holly had nothing to... JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 #20
whoops sorry, I was confusing this article with another one she wrote. SYFROYH Mar 2022 #21
No... JoeOtterbein Mar 2022 #24
I didn't hear Biden make any "ambitious promise." Anyone not voting for Democrats because $10,000 betsuni Mar 2022 #13
What have Democrats in Congress done to address it? W_HAMILTON Mar 2022 #14
The Biden Administration has done a lot of student loans... unlocked millions to the forgiveness pro Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #15
An excuse JI7 Mar 2022 #16
Don't borrow money you can't pay back luv2fly Mar 2022 #17
Payments on federal student loans have been halted for almost two years. Restarting them before WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2022 #19
My Dem voting nephew was whining about that during a recent visit mcar Mar 2022 #22
This is the correct response. GoCubsGo Mar 2022 #28
The surest way to get student loan relief is to elect Democrats. MineralMan Mar 2022 #23

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
1. Student debt holders of that kind need to extract heads from rears.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:30 AM
Mar 2022

Sitting things out doesn't help get what you want.

Some people are too goddamn one issued and whiny.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
3. Lots of parents...
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:37 AM
Mar 2022

...paid for a good education for their children. And are still paying today. Some worth it. Others of us just got ripped off.

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
29. It never helps when we...
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 07:10 PM
Mar 2022

...are hiding what other Americans feel about politics. They are potential voters. Let's encourage them by voicing their problems and empathizing with their concerns.

Caring works wonders in politics.

And we all need to care more.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
2. I paid off my student loan years ago.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:34 AM
Mar 2022

So, can I just get a check for $10,000 if the President eliminates same amount of owed student loans?

JoeOtterbein

(7,700 posts)
4. Yes. If you paid a amount that was equal to what a student would pay...
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:40 AM
Mar 2022

...today.

Give me the years and the amounts and I'll do the calculations for you.

And I never went to any kind of "higher education"!

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
5. government is not responsible for your loans
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:40 AM
Mar 2022

everyone should know this basic fact. There is a reason affordable options exist such as public community colleges. I bet they give more useful education that the colleges which take tens of thousands $ of your money without giving you education that can pay off the loan.

SYFROYH

(34,169 posts)
8. Classic Politico shit stirring
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:55 AM
Mar 2022

First, I'm all for loan forgiveness. I paid off my loans after 20 years of payments and I still favor loan forgiveness.

The "sources" are anonymous advocates of loan forgiveness. No names and no accountability. We have no idea what their opinions are based upon. It could be true or just an idle threat from advocates with no leverage.

But this kind of article is good for the clicks and thats why they publish it.









SYFROYH

(34,169 posts)
18. That's my point, we don't know if they said it or had reason to say it
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 04:42 PM
Mar 2022

These advocates should be able to speak for themselves on record if it's true. They are not revealing anything about the president or more powerful people so there's no need for anonymity.

Maybe they didn't say it.

Or maybe they did but they don't have any polling or reason to say it except to make an idle threat.

Or maybe they did say it and they have data to support it.

Whichever way it is, this reporting does nothing except incite clicks for Politico.

I think {the authors} (incorrectly attributed to Holly Otterbein originally) should work harder to report with accountability and be critical of those who are feeding her their opinions.




betsuni

(25,465 posts)
13. I didn't hear Biden make any "ambitious promise." Anyone not voting for Democrats because $10,000
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:18 AM
Mar 2022

isn't forgiven from their student debt in less than two years of the Biden administration because there aren't enough votes to pass legislation that Biden wanted but can't do because he couldn't tell the future and see Manchin and Sinema in his crystal ball...

Well, it's your future. I'm sure Republicans will not make you cry about promises.

I'd bet cash money that even if Biden did come up with an executive order for that $10,000, younger voter turnout wouldn't increase. I'm sure of it.

W_HAMILTON

(7,862 posts)
14. What have Democrats in Congress done to address it?
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 04:07 AM
Mar 2022

If they Democrats in Congress are worrying about their election hopes because enough hasn't been done to address student loans, perhaps Democrats in Congress should do something about addressing student loans?

Demovictory9

(32,449 posts)
15. The Biden Administration has done a lot of student loans... unlocked millions to the forgiveness pro
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 04:10 AM
Mar 2022

program.

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
17. Don't borrow money you can't pay back
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 07:46 AM
Mar 2022

While the amount of debt some students get themselves into is ridiculous, it is not without their eyes being open the entire time.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,326 posts)
19. Payments on federal student loans have been halted for almost two years. Restarting them before
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 04:50 PM
Mar 2022

the midterms would be political suicide.

mcar

(42,302 posts)
22. My Dem voting nephew was whining about that during a recent visit
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:11 PM
Mar 2022

I looked at him and said, "your pregnant wife and your pregnant sister are about to lose their human rights and you and your friends are threatening to vote 3rd party because of student loan debt?"

It stopped him cold. He then agreed with me.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
28. This is the correct response.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:55 PM
Mar 2022

And, just the tip of the ice berg as far as what we'll all lose if the Goons of Putin take over Congress.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
23. The surest way to get student loan relief is to elect Democrats.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 05:25 PM
Mar 2022

Anything that works against that is non-productive. Period.

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