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Sixth Russian General killed (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 OP
It looks like if putin wants to get rid of a general, just send him to UKRAINE!!! nt mitch96 Mar 2022 #1
I think US and or NATO intel is helping the Ukrainian forces with information on where and when the Botany Mar 2022 #2
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #3
THat is the first of the 5 listed in the OP, right? Sanity Claws Mar 2022 #4
Russia: From 2nd most powerful military in the world, 3Hotdogs Mar 2022 #5
+10 nt reACTIONary Mar 2022 #12
It was all hype, slick arms sales advertising and the usual western histeria..... paleotn Mar 2022 #16
yep llashram Mar 2022 #24
I'm putting that out there. LiberalFighter Mar 2022 #27
K&R 2naSalit Mar 2022 #6
A Russian general a week keeps the Russians away dalton99a Mar 2022 #7
Could it be the sniper is the Canadian sniper who came over and joined up? Liberal In Texas Mar 2022 #8
Maybe so, but I think the Russian generals were already falling Mariana Mar 2022 #23
Credit goes to UKR. It's unlikely that they have to import snipers to pick off generals. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2022 #31
Its so nice to wake up to such pleasant news! Alien Life Form Mar 2022 #9
He shall not be missed by many rpannier Mar 2022 #10
Hopefully he had sunflower seeds in his pocket..... louis-t Mar 2022 #25
You don't put your top Generals on the front lines. Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #11
Sounds familiar ouija Mar 2022 #13
I would suggest that this invasion probably looks more like Iraq or Vietnam Bucky Mar 2022 #14
Yeah, it's urban warfare in many areas Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #19
Early death of young senior generals greatly reduces the funding required for retirement benefits. NCjack Mar 2022 #21
Well, that's one way of doing it Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #38
Comms problems & logistics snafus require Russ generals at the front to untangle them. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #29
One of Russia's problems is that the generals are on the front line and don't have a choice GregariousGroundhog Mar 2022 #34
Yeah, Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #37
Dead general of the day LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #45
The more generals who bite the dust, the better. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #15
I think Zelenskyy might be intentionally asking for the wrong thing HariSeldon Mar 2022 #26
Counter battery weapons have already been delivered and more on the way. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #30
Send the Ukrainian farmers Danascot Mar 2022 #35
Looking at the word "eliminated" in quotes has me wondering. Fragged? niyad Mar 2022 #17
No. I've noticed "eliminated" is one of the terms used by Ukraine for killed or destroyed. Liberal In Texas Mar 2022 #18
Colonel Sergey Sukharev eliminated in Ukraine. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #20
Thanks for the confirmation LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #41
find 'em kill 'em llashram Mar 2022 #22
Russian generals Slammer Mar 2022 #28
Promotion through assassination COL Mustard Mar 2022 #32
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Mar 2022 #33
Nope... no high end plot involving omnipotent foreign intel agencies... Josiesdad Mar 2022 #36
I think this is the work of top notch intel coordinating with bad ass snipers Beetwasher. Mar 2022 #46
I wonder who will kill the most Russian generals: Zelenskyy or Putin? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2022 #39
Rt 💕🐱‍🏍TY & the Ukrainian Cha Mar 2022 #40
The Russians are losing so many generals they're gonna have to call up Mike Flynn from the bullpen LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #42
Russian Fleet Commander, Andrey Palin, has been Shot Dead by Ukrainian defense forces. LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #43
Another Russian General has been killed LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #44
Top Notch Intel + Badass Snipers Equals Lot's of Dead Russian Command Staff Beetwasher. Mar 2022 #47

Botany

(70,447 posts)
2. I think US and or NATO intel is helping the Ukrainian forces with information on where and when the
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 08:27 AM
Mar 2022

... Russian Generals are. If the Russian troops want to stop being slaughter they know what they
have to do.

paleotn

(17,881 posts)
16. It was all hype, slick arms sales advertising and the usual western histeria.....
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 09:28 AM
Mar 2022

about Russian might dating back to the 50's. A Potemkin military once again. Not the first time the Russians have fooled the west into thinking their military is something it's not.

I've been calling them a paper tiger since December and caught huge amounts of flack over it. Turns out the Russians are true to form and a number of analysts who don't fall for slick hype were right.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
24. yep
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:36 AM
Mar 2022

got to wear your flak jacket, all times Russian military ain't all that as the paper tiger Pukin has proven to the world.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
23. Maybe so, but I think the Russian generals were already falling
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:34 AM
Mar 2022

before that sniper arrived arrived in Ukraine.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
31. Credit goes to UKR. It's unlikely that they have to import snipers to pick off generals.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 11:02 AM
Mar 2022

Although having a few extra specialists in their ranks certainly doesn't hurt.

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
10. He shall not be missed by many
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 09:02 AM
Mar 2022

Hopefully he fell face first.
That way he could see where he was headed in the afterlife as he dropped

Farmer-Rick

(10,135 posts)
11. You don't put your top Generals on the front lines.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 09:04 AM
Mar 2022

Unless you think they aren't very good and need to be upfront to control everything.

If Putin is a micromanaging dictator, he would see himself as the controlling power behind the troops. So, he does not want or need his Generals' advice and strategic experience. He needs managers up front because Putin isn't going out to get himself killed.

Dictators always think they know better than anyone else. So, Generals are kind of useless to a dictator. Especially if a good Generals earns the loyalty and respect of the troops. Then they are a threat to the dictator's power and control.

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
14. I would suggest that this invasion probably looks more like Iraq or Vietnam
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 09:19 AM
Mar 2022

Meaning it's not a World War I type trench warfare where there are clearly delineated "front lines." A lot of what's going on in Ukraine right now is urban warfare and maneuvering their tank and APC convoys around suburbs and small towns. Any officer out in the open can become a target.

Farmer-Rick

(10,135 posts)
19. Yeah, it's urban warfare in many areas
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:00 AM
Mar 2022

Of course there are no trenches.

But you know where the fighting is. You know where most of the action is going down. You know the war zone, it changes hourly sometimes, and you don't send your top troop leaders there to die and lose all that strategic information they have acquired.

Unless you don't really feel you need them. Then yeah, run them through the road you know is under sniper surveillance. That's when you make them establish headquarters in an area that has not been secured. You shouldn't leave your Generals out in the open to become targets.

This could also be due to overconfidence. You think it will be easy and you don't take proper precautions. But this shouldn't have happened 5 times. You should have learned after the first dead General.

These so called Generals are doing what we would probably have Colonel's, or 0-6's doing, maybe even 0-5's. (Of course now a days we would probably just use mercenaries) We don't have a dictatorship so Generals are usually fully trained and necessary for war. We want them to inspire and lead troops, at least we use to before Cheney.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
21. Early death of young senior generals greatly reduces the funding required for retirement benefits.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:23 AM
Mar 2022

GregariousGroundhog

(7,512 posts)
34. One of Russia's problems is that the generals are on the front line and don't have a choice
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:13 PM
Mar 2022

Russian generals need to be on the front line for two reasons. The first is that Russia made the mistake of blowing up most of Ukraine's cell towers in the early days of the war; it was reported maybe a week or so ago that this has been problematic for Russia since their encrypted communication channels rely on 3g and/or 4g cell phone service. The second is that war is going poorly and there is immense pressure from the top to straighten everything out. Sitting in the rear doing nothing because their communications are out isn't going to get a general a very good performance review.

Farmer-Rick

(10,135 posts)
37. Yeah,
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 02:54 PM
Mar 2022

Putin really didn't think this war through. He's like a toddler throwing a tantrum.

What a waste of human life all around.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
15. The more generals who bite the dust, the better.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 09:21 AM
Mar 2022

Zelensky is correct in saying that they need air support to stop the missiles. It seems they could easily defeat the ground forces if they and their cities were’t being bombed constantly. I’m hoping that US intelligence can tell them exactly where the missiles are coming from, so they can use donated weapons to taken out the source, at least the ground-based ones. The worrisome ones are those fired from ships on the Black Sea, like the ones that hit Lviv yesterday. I have no clue how you take those out without a direct attack on the ships. News reports showed several ships hovering off the coast of Odessa like vultures.

HariSeldon

(454 posts)
26. I think Zelenskyy might be intentionally asking for the wrong thing
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:38 AM
Mar 2022

Additional air power might be nice, but two things he rarely -- if ever -- mentions will make way more difference: counter-missiles (like the S-300s which are on their way) and counter-battery weapons. Ukrainian forces have been doing great work with the anti-tank missiles, but those have a hard time finding artillery. I thought I read somewhere that Ukraine is getting some counter-batteries, too.

So the S-300s will take down many missiles (Patriots would do better, but require too much training) and counter-batteries to take the fight back to the howitzers being used to commit war crimes.

Josiesdad

(43 posts)
36. Nope... no high end plot involving omnipotent foreign intel agencies...
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:42 PM
Mar 2022

Rather, it is a consequence of Russia's fubar'd logistics efforts. When the supply column stalls because the enemy disables the lead vehicles... Morale plummets as the drivers try to hide their tanks and supply trucks behind trees (or get mired in the mud)... desertions spike... the general staff orders the unit commander to visit the line, unsnarl the mess and get the convoy moving. Obviously he cannot do that from a rear area. The Ukrainian sniper on over-watch notes the arrival and announces his presence with a single shot.

~Or perhaps I am reading to many Ukrainian Press Releases~

Beetwasher.

(2,967 posts)
46. I think this is the work of top notch intel coordinating with bad ass snipers
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 09:53 AM
Mar 2022

The whole Russian military is almost certainly riddled with Ukranians. Target locations are being dialed right in to sniper teams.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,321 posts)
39. I wonder who will kill the most Russian generals: Zelenskyy or Putin?
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 02:59 PM
Mar 2022

There are consequences for moving slower than expected. In any army.

Beetwasher.

(2,967 posts)
47. Top Notch Intel + Badass Snipers Equals Lot's of Dead Russian Command Staff
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 09:54 AM
Mar 2022

I'd bet a dollar the whole Russian military is riddled, top to bottom, with Ukranian intel operatives and assets. Locations are being dialed in directly to sniper teams. You don't rack up a count like this without an awesome, well organized system. Ukranians are getting shit done. I'm blown away by how effective they are.

Imagine being command staff in the Russian army right now. Sucks to be you.

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