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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBig ATV swarm in Phili. yesterday. Cops try to corral..then gas stations turn off lights
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)It's been a huge thing around here in the city and surrounding burbs.
Is there a goal or message? The video stopped playing halfway through for me.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)I honestly don't know. I have noticed a huge uptick in people - mostly young men - riding everywhere on dirt bikes and atvs. Sometimes they will swarm one of the main roadways - Roosevelt BLVD. They drive through parka, open fields, protected areas, abandoned complexes, etc with zero regard for safety or respect for land.
It's in the burbs, too. Random groups of men ripping through little parks and up and down residential streets.
I have no clue why or if there is a central goal or message.
brooklynite
(94,571 posts)obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)They are an illegal menace
RealityBasedNewYorkr
(119 posts)No consequences so they get ever more emboldened. Threatening and jeopardizing pedestrians, other motorists, young and old. Same in NYC.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)When one if these criminals down here died after going the wrong way down a street after a cop went to make a stop, most DUers defended the kid and blamed the cop.
They are a menace here.
Go live in the fucking country if you want to buy these for your kids.
Kali
(55,008 posts)I hate the fucking things!
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riversedge
(70,218 posts)Or just riding around creating havoc??
Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)We have them down here, too. They suck. When the cops do anything, they are called racists.
Elessar Zappa
(13,991 posts)Around my town its almost 100% white maga-types who do this. Im not sure about other places.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)Botany
(70,504 posts)I might be wrong but I doubt it.
Have the police start impounding their ATVs and dirt bikes and then they will have to pay
lots of money to get 'em back, they will get points on their d. licenses, and their insurance
will go up.
Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)When yhey catch them but outnumbered
Botany
(70,504 posts)n/t
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)If you come into Philly on the Platt Bridge, the impound lot is on the southeast shore of the Schuykill. Couple acres. Hundreds of atvs, dirt bikes, go carts, you name it.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)Often there are so many and the cops are already overtaxed in the city. In my old neighborhood you rarely see cops. Dirt bikes and atvs have always been a completely unregulated issue here (Far Northeast Philadelphia), but it has gotten way worse. You can call cops, but they aren't going to come speeding out for dirt bikes. These guys zip up and down small, crowded residential streets and weave through main roads and create a safety issue. Plus, there is land/property destruction. I can't recall ever seeing them pulled over. Even so, they are unregistered.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)It's a very mixed demographic from what I've seen. Philly has some deep red pockets, but I think this is less connected to political affiliation and more connected to the fact that there are no consequences for them.
Amishman
(5,557 posts)At least in the example closest to me and of which I am most familiar; it is troubled young black and hispanic males. Product of failing schools; poorly educated, angry, marginalized.
Elessar Zappa
(13,991 posts)In my small town its definitely maga types who do this shit..
brooklynite
(94,571 posts)It seems to more about building street cred, no underlying message.
Zeitghost
(3,858 posts)Are young black males, so not likely to be Trump fans.
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)Takket
(21,568 posts)LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,765 posts)They look like kids or at least young adults. Saw one doing donuts in a schoolyard the other day that looked to be maybe 12 years old.
They ride through yards, fields, gardens, farms, on sidewalks, and just generally tear everything up.
ZellyCabMem
(49 posts)I wonder when the foxnews propaganda machine will start spending days on end covering this the way they do/did black youths running amok in Milwaukie?
badhair77
(4,218 posts)The riders seem to want to show disrespect to authority. Its startling when youre driving along and suddenly theyre upon you. Its an opportunity for them to show off their incivility. Its like a trump rally on wheels.
2naSalit
(86,612 posts)Last edited Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:12 PM - Edit history (1)
Is to confiscate their vehicles and then kick them out of the country.
Seriously, they are parading about blatantly showing their disrespect for our laws and for our people. If they don't agree with the social contract, then they can be sent someplace else and try their luck there. Fuck 'em.
badhair77
(4,218 posts)They still havent caught the guy with the red 4 wheeler who injured the pedestrian, despite video. And of course they are masked.
2naSalit
(86,612 posts)ShazamIam
(2,571 posts)Fox loves to bash Philadelphia as one of those, liberal cities, and focus on what they call, "urban," violence in Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle and Portland.
Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)Associating behavior with race
Chainfire
(17,538 posts)Without all of that pesky initiation stuff.
Some people get thrills from inconveniencing others. It makes the powerless feel big without much risk. It is the same mentality that causes a 35 year old to sucker-punch an elderly woman, in public, for no apparent reason.
At one time the country respected, to some degree, law, order, community and civility. That has passed and now, bad people, who were shunned in the past are "having their turn in the sunshine." The belly of our country has a growing malignant cancer called hate.
The decline in the value of truth, justice and civility inside the Republican Party is a symptom of the disease that will end up being the death of the nation. Honest, hardworking people are just suckers, silly victims to exploit.
Elessar Zappa
(13,991 posts)from the South if this country ever respected law, civility, and community. Lawlessness has been around always.
EarthFirst
(2,900 posts)They gather by the dozens; sometimes over a hundred and bypass any traffic laws. They have engaged in hostile confrontations with motorists during their reckless takeover of neighborhoods.
As the weather progresses; this seasonal issue will increase as expected.
Not sure what the solution is.
2naSalit
(86,612 posts)I'm trying to think of something.
ripcord
(5,399 posts)Someone needs to take out the trash.