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Big ATV swarm in Phili. yesterday. Cops try to corral..then gas stations turn off lights (Original Post) Demovictory9 Mar 2022 OP
Yeah Tree-Hugger Mar 2022 #1
Why? ZellyCabMem Mar 2022 #5
I am not sure Tree-Hugger Mar 2022 #13
This has been a thing in NYC for years. brooklynite Mar 2022 #22
And in suburban South Florida obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #29
Psychopath scumbags RealityBasedNewYorkr Mar 2022 #2
DUers like to defend them obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #31
we don't want these morons tearing up the land out here either! Kali Mar 2022 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #3
umm. I had not heard of the ATV's gatherings. Do they have a prupose-a goal? riversedge Mar 2022 #4
Young male fun..group fun? Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #10
Breaking the law and terrorizing people obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #32
Why racist? Elessar Zappa Mar 2022 #34
One word: Nets. nt Buns_of_Fire Mar 2022 #6
I would guess Trump supporters Botany Mar 2022 #7
They are unlicensed. Cops are confiscating them Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #9
They are unregistered (no license tags)? Botany Mar 2022 #12
They are not even street legal Effete Snob Mar 2022 #23
Too many Tree-Hugger Mar 2022 #15
Some may be Tree-Hugger Mar 2022 #17
Based on Reading PA's problem - probably not Amishman Mar 2022 #21
Depends where you are. Elessar Zappa Mar 2022 #30
In NYC, most that I've seen are definitely not Trump supporters. brooklynite Mar 2022 #25
Most of the big city swarms I have seen Zeitghost Mar 2022 #33
Some people... Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #8
WTF is this??? Mad Max???????? Takket Mar 2022 #11
Mad Max anarchy. LastDemocratInSC Mar 2022 #14
ATVs have torn up the public parks and HS soccer field in my small town in IL Midnight Writer Mar 2022 #16
Hmmmm..... ZellyCabMem Mar 2022 #18
We have this problem in our small city. Recently a pedestrian was hit and injured. badhair77 Mar 2022 #19
My answer to that... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #27
Problem is they can't catch them. They outrun the police, or the police aren't around. badhair77 Mar 2022 #36
Domestic Terrorists ...nt 2naSalit Mar 2022 #37
Those riders are white so I wondered if Fox had any coverage, went to their site and nope. ShazamIam Mar 2022 #20
And commenters assume they are black and make the typical comments Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #39
Modern motorcycle gangs? Chainfire Mar 2022 #24
Ask older black people Elessar Zappa Mar 2022 #35
We have these groups in Rochester, N.Y. EarthFirst Mar 2022 #26
Clouds of bear spray? 2naSalit Mar 2022 #28
Turn it over to city sanitation ripcord Mar 2022 #40

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
13. I am not sure
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:00 PM
Mar 2022

I honestly don't know. I have noticed a huge uptick in people - mostly young men - riding everywhere on dirt bikes and atvs. Sometimes they will swarm one of the main roadways - Roosevelt BLVD. They drive through parka, open fields, protected areas, abandoned complexes, etc with zero regard for safety or respect for land.

It's in the burbs, too. Random groups of men ripping through little parks and up and down residential streets.

I have no clue why or if there is a central goal or message.

2. Psychopath scumbags
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:39 PM
Mar 2022

No consequences so they get ever more emboldened. Threatening and jeopardizing pedestrians, other motorists, young and old. Same in NYC.

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
31. DUers like to defend them
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 02:37 PM
Mar 2022

When one if these criminals down here died after going the wrong way down a street after a cop went to make a stop, most DUers defended the kid and blamed the cop.

They are a menace here.

Go live in the fucking country if you want to buy these for your kids.

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
4. umm. I had not heard of the ATV's gatherings. Do they have a prupose-a goal?
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:47 PM
Mar 2022

Or just riding around creating havoc??

obamanut2012

(26,076 posts)
32. Breaking the law and terrorizing people
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 02:40 PM
Mar 2022

We have them down here, too. They suck. When the cops do anything, they are called racists.

Elessar Zappa

(13,991 posts)
34. Why racist?
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 04:19 PM
Mar 2022

Around my town it’s almost 100% white maga-types who do this. I’m not sure about other places.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
7. I would guess Trump supporters
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 12:55 PM
Mar 2022

I might be wrong but I doubt it.

Have the police start impounding their ATVs and dirt bikes and then they will have to pay
lots of money to get 'em back, they will get points on their d. licenses, and their insurance
will go up.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
23. They are not even street legal
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:15 PM
Mar 2022

If you come into Philly on the Platt Bridge, the impound lot is on the southeast shore of the Schuykill. Couple acres. Hundreds of atvs, dirt bikes, go carts, you name it.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
15. Too many
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:04 PM
Mar 2022

Often there are so many and the cops are already overtaxed in the city. In my old neighborhood you rarely see cops. Dirt bikes and atvs have always been a completely unregulated issue here (Far Northeast Philadelphia), but it has gotten way worse. You can call cops, but they aren't going to come speeding out for dirt bikes. These guys zip up and down small, crowded residential streets and weave through main roads and create a safety issue. Plus, there is land/property destruction. I can't recall ever seeing them pulled over. Even so, they are unregistered.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
17. Some may be
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:06 PM
Mar 2022

It's a very mixed demographic from what I've seen. Philly has some deep red pockets, but I think this is less connected to political affiliation and more connected to the fact that there are no consequences for them.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
21. Based on Reading PA's problem - probably not
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:13 PM
Mar 2022

At least in the example closest to me and of which I am most familiar; it is troubled young black and hispanic males. Product of failing schools; poorly educated, angry, marginalized.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
25. In NYC, most that I've seen are definitely not Trump supporters.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:18 PM
Mar 2022

It seems to more about building street cred, no underlying message.

Midnight Writer

(21,765 posts)
16. ATVs have torn up the public parks and HS soccer field in my small town in IL
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:06 PM
Mar 2022

They look like kids or at least young adults. Saw one doing donuts in a schoolyard the other day that looked to be maybe 12 years old.

They ride through yards, fields, gardens, farms, on sidewalks, and just generally tear everything up.

 

ZellyCabMem

(49 posts)
18. Hmmmm.....
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:10 PM
Mar 2022

I wonder when the foxnews propaganda machine will start spending days on end covering this the way they do/did black youths running amok in Milwaukie?

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
19. We have this problem in our small city. Recently a pedestrian was hit and injured.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:12 PM
Mar 2022

The riders seem to want to show disrespect to authority. It’s startling when you’re driving along and suddenly they’re upon you. It’s an opportunity for them to show off their incivility. It’s like a trump rally on wheels.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
27. My answer to that...
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 02:14 PM
Mar 2022

Last edited Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:12 PM - Edit history (1)

Is to confiscate their vehicles and then kick them out of the country.

Seriously, they are parading about blatantly showing their disrespect for our laws and for our people. If they don't agree with the social contract, then they can be sent someplace else and try their luck there. Fuck 'em.

badhair77

(4,218 posts)
36. Problem is they can't catch them. They outrun the police, or the police aren't around.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 04:26 PM
Mar 2022

They still haven’t caught the guy with the red 4 wheeler who injured the pedestrian, despite video. And of course they are masked.

ShazamIam

(2,571 posts)
20. Those riders are white so I wondered if Fox had any coverage, went to their site and nope.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:12 PM
Mar 2022

Fox loves to bash Philadelphia as one of those, liberal cities, and focus on what they call, "urban," violence in Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle and Portland.

Chainfire

(17,538 posts)
24. Modern motorcycle gangs?
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:16 PM
Mar 2022

Without all of that pesky initiation stuff.

Some people get thrills from inconveniencing others. It makes the powerless feel big without much risk. It is the same mentality that causes a 35 year old to sucker-punch an elderly woman, in public, for no apparent reason.

At one time the country respected, to some degree, law, order, community and civility. That has passed and now, bad people, who were shunned in the past are "having their turn in the sunshine." The belly of our country has a growing malignant cancer called hate.

The decline in the value of truth, justice and civility inside the Republican Party is a symptom of the disease that will end up being the death of the nation. Honest, hardworking people are just suckers, silly victims to exploit.

Elessar Zappa

(13,991 posts)
35. Ask older black people
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 04:21 PM
Mar 2022

from the South if this country ever respected law, civility, and community. Lawlessness has been around always.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
26. We have these groups in Rochester, N.Y.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 01:20 PM
Mar 2022

They gather by the dozens; sometimes over a hundred and bypass any traffic laws. They have engaged in hostile confrontations with motorists during their reckless takeover of neighborhoods.

As the weather progresses; this seasonal issue will increase as expected.

Not sure what the solution is.

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