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ColinC

(8,289 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:13 PM Mar 2022

"Ukrainian forces have defeated the initial Russian campaign..."


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ISW- “Ukrainian forces have defeated the initial Russian campaign of this war. Its culmination is creating conditions of stalemate throughout most of Ukraine.”
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@TheStudyofWar
NEW: Ukrainian forces have defeated the initial #Russian campaign of this war. Its culmination is creating conditions of stalemate throughout most of #Ukraine.

Read the latest Russian offensive campaign assessment from @TheStudyofWar and @criticalthreats: https://isw.pub/RusCampaignMar19
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"Ukrainian forces have defeated the initial Russian campaign..." (Original Post) ColinC Mar 2022 OP
I'm not sure I buy this given other reports I have seen today. LonePirate Mar 2022 #1
Mariupol has likely been a lost cause for a while. ColinC Mar 2022 #2
Russia can take cities BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #7
Resupply the Ukrainians. BootinUp Mar 2022 #3
Yes, except for Mariupol. ananda Mar 2022 #4
Yeah.. ColinC Mar 2022 #5
From your lips to God's ears. ananda Mar 2022 #6
Fingers crossed ColinC Mar 2022 #8

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
1. I'm not sure I buy this given other reports I have seen today.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:21 PM
Mar 2022

Mariupol is essentially overrun with Russian troops. Also, there are reports of that the bulk of the Ukrainian army in the eastern regions of the country near the Russian border and largely surrounded. Sure, Kyiv may not have fallen and the Russian advance may have stalled there; but that does not mean a stalemate exists between the two countries.

ColinC

(8,289 posts)
2. Mariupol has likely been a lost cause for a while.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 06:24 PM
Mar 2022

But Ukraine has been picking back up dozens of smaller cities closer to Kherson keeping Russia from holding ground around Kyiv. Even if Mariupol falls to Russia, Kherson may quickly switch hands back to Ukraine.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
7. Russia can take cities
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 07:55 PM
Mar 2022

But I doubt they can keep them. The resistance in Ukraine is stronger than the invaders.

ColinC

(8,289 posts)
5. Yeah..
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 07:21 PM
Mar 2022

But I think Mariupol will not be held for too long. And I think Kherson will be retaken by Ukraine shortly.

ColinC

(8,289 posts)
8. Fingers crossed
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 08:19 PM
Mar 2022

If Belarus is really putting troops in, that might be an additional 62,000 on Russia's side? It may give Russia at least an initial reboots in momentum.

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