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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,741 posts)
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 08:32 PM Mar 2022

Pro-Trump Pastor Rails Against Church Being Kept Out of Government

Pastor Mark Burns, a staunch supporter of former President Donald Trump and a Republican congressional candidate in South Carolina, said that the separation of church and state should come to an end in the U.S.

He made the remarks as he spoke at the Trump-headlined American Freedom Tour at the FLA Live Arena in Sunrise, Florida, on Saturday. The right-wing evangelical Christian televangelist spoke in the morning, along with a number of other pro-Trump conservatives, before the former president took the stage in the afternoon.

"Trump won!" Burns yelled, leading the crowd to chant the slogan, according to a video shared to social media. This was an apparent reference to false claims that President Joe Biden only defeated Trump in the 2020 election due to widespread voter fraud.

"We need to replace God at the center of American politics. The separation between church and state was not designed to keep the church out of the government, it was designed to keep the government out of the church," Burns said, continuing his remarks, the Miami Herald first reported.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pro-trump-pastor-rails-against-church-being-kept-out-of-government/ar-AAVgVg3

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Pro-Trump Pastor Rails Against Church Being Kept Out of Government (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2022 OP
Who the hell do they think they are? Blue Owl Mar 2022 #1
Oh, they think they are the chosen ones in the universe by their god almighty. RKP5637 Mar 2022 #7
So much endless bullshit from these guys. He's an example of why it must always be separate. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2022 #2
He's an example of sheer stupidity. wnylib Mar 2022 #9
A crazy theocrat? Who could've known? sakabatou Mar 2022 #3
God lost Cartoonist Mar 2022 #4
. wnylib Mar 2022 #11
(snort) Solomon Mar 2022 #25
What a load a crap MacKasey Mar 2022 #5
Nobody expects The Spanish Inquisition . . . . . . no_hypocrisy Mar 2022 #6
gurl please.... CurtEastPoint Mar 2022 #8
The founding fathers recognized the perniciousness of religion in government Zorro Mar 2022 #10
Yeah, because Christian leadership has always proved beneficial to those under it. Who was in Karadeniz Mar 2022 #12
First Amedment, Schmirst Schmamendment. GoCubsGo Mar 2022 #13
Then get ready to pay those taxes, Pastor Mark. badhair77 Mar 2022 #14
Which church? greatauntoftriplets Mar 2022 #15
People like this always assume Mariana Mar 2022 #18
Why not atreides1 Mar 2022 #16
Look at his church as a business, then his appeal makes sense. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2022 #17
What will they say/do when it is not their version of Christianity in charge? keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #19
Dominionists. Theocracy. We have plenty of folks who want to be the Christian Ayatollah of America keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #20
Maybe we should I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #21
Y'all wake me up when it's over. raccoon Mar 2022 #22
"We need to replace God" is indeed their philosophy struggle4progress Mar 2022 #23
Without freedom FROM religion, there is no freedom OF religion...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #24
The Christian Right is Americas Taliban. nt Hotler Mar 2022 #26
Funny, I thought they were already enmeshed in our government MagickMuffin Mar 2022 #27

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
9. He's an example of sheer stupidity.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 08:39 PM
Mar 2022

If the church gets involved in government, it will be an inevitable 2 way street, with the government involved in the church, too.

Ignorant fool.

Zorro

(15,724 posts)
10. The founding fathers recognized the perniciousness of religion in government
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 08:41 PM
Mar 2022

And these pastors don't even know the history of their own country, and how colonists emigrated from their home countries to escape state supported religion. A pox on all these religious fanatics.

Karadeniz

(22,473 posts)
12. Yeah, because Christian leadership has always proved beneficial to those under it. Who was in
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 08:44 PM
Mar 2022

charge producing the Dark Ages? Who produced conflicts by inciting Crusades, killing first nonCatholics in France and then inhabitants in the Near East? Who destroyed the Moorish civilization in Spain and then created an Inquisition to focus on Jews. Christianity, when given power, has never, that I know of, practiced the teachings of Jesus. This pastor's congregation must be idiots.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
15. Which church?
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 09:16 PM
Mar 2022

What if it's not mine? I read this crackpot's Wiki entry, it doesn't even say what religion he is except that he's evangelical.

What a stupid idea. This country is too diverse for this suggestion to work, let alone be inclusive of all Americans.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
18. People like this always assume
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:36 PM
Mar 2022

that their particular flavor of Christianity is the one that will be forced upon the population. It never seems to occur to them that a Christian denomination they don't agree with might end up running the show.

atreides1

(16,067 posts)
16. Why not
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:02 PM
Mar 2022

But, before we make such a major change...they'll have to prove that they are the chosen of "God"!


First we immerse the good Pastor, and anyone else who thinks as he does, in jellied gasoline...we then nail them to gas soaked railroad ties using railroad spikes...and light them on fire!!!

If they come through unscathed then they truly must be the chosen ones...

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
17. Look at his church as a business, then his appeal makes sense.
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:13 PM
Mar 2022

American businesses saturate our political system with their lobbying with appeals for tax breaks and inputs for legislation or budgets.

Burns' bullshit is just part of that noise......

keithbvadu2

(36,667 posts)
19. What will they say/do when it is not their version of Christianity in charge?
Sat Mar 19, 2022, 10:53 PM
Mar 2022

What will they say/do when it is not their version of Christianity in charge?

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/americas-true-history-of-religious-tolerance-61312684/?no-ist= ;

Madison also made a point that any believer of any religion should understand: that the government sanction of a religion was, in essence, a threat to religion. "Who does not see," he wrote, "that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects?" Madison was writing from his memory of Baptist ministers being arrested in his native Virginia.
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I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
21. Maybe we should
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 02:23 AM
Mar 2022

Tie weights to thier feet and throw them in a lake.. there are plenty of ways to torture and kill,that christians did to make other people prove they were innocent.

They've been begging for another burning time, lets give it to them.

Hell why not throw in bundy and a bunch of fascists,and the trump family and fry them too.

See if god sez they are innocent .

struggle4progress

(118,234 posts)
23. "We need to replace God" is indeed their philosophy
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:00 AM
Mar 2022


Turn around!
Go back down, back the way you came!
Terror is on every side: Lord, the leaders are dismayed.
All those who put their faith in fire? In fire, their faith shall be repaid!

MagickMuffin

(15,933 posts)
27. Funny, I thought they were already enmeshed in our government
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:23 AM
Mar 2022



Every politician has some form of religious affiliation.

The church groups have plenty of allies in Congress to push their agendas.

We are seeing it played out currently with the constant attack on women!





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