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The invaders illegally removed people from the city's Left Bank district and shelters in the building of the city's sports club, where more than a thousand people (mostly women and children) had been hiding from the constant bombing.
It is known that the captured Mariupol residents were taken to filtration camps, where the invaders checked people's phones and documents. After the inspection, some Mariupol residents were redirected to remote cities in Russia, the fate of others remains unknown.
More crimes against humanity.
Drum
(8,909 posts)AllyCat
(16,031 posts)When can we pound Putin to glass? I know, I know.
Liberty Belle
(9,528 posts)I wonder who they are kidnapping--anyone at random or could they be targeting Jews or some other group?
I am hard-pressed to think of another war where civilian were removed from their country and taken to the invader's homeland -- except for World War II when Nazi Germany was doing this.
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)to transfer populations in this manner.
They may be trying to depopulate Ukraine so they can repopulate with Russians.
This was an old Stalinist practice.
We need to make the sanctions even more severe IMO. Really squeeze the hell out of them, and yes, make ordinary Russians really suffer.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,170 posts)to depopulate it to provide the Germans with more "living space". He wrote about it in 'Mein Kamp' if memory serves correctly.
Bluesaph
(694 posts)To use them as hostages?
To indoctrinate the ones who they deem worthy to Pro-Russia philosophy.
The ones who dont make the cut gets the rifle to their head.
Igel
(35,191 posts)One is to clear the territory. But even that was a side benefit.
When you have a "tribe" that's wedded to the land and fights as a unit, you dissolve the unit. Remove it from the land. They have less to fight for, and they're distributed. The Circassians were split up from the Caucasus by the Ottomans for this reason. Stalin did it, but he learned it from history--the Horde and the Ottomans did precisely the same thing.
Stalin moved the Tatars, not to relocate Russians in their place (even if that happened) but for the same reason FDR put West Coast) but not East Coast Japanese(-Americans) in camps. Get unreliable elements away from the front line. The Turks did something similar with Kurds and Syriac Xians.
In this case they also might be intending to use them as a kind of hostage in negotiations later.
It's also possible that Putin's going full-tilt abusive big brother. "I can't let the Russians stay. They'd be assimilated, and that's genocide! So we'll force them to stay Russian to preserve their cultural-ethnic purity." Remember--genocide of Russophones is one of the reasons given for this "special operation".
But I wouldn't rule out that he just wants a photo op. "Look at the grateful people. Yes, that's the Ukrainian hand gesture for 'we're #1!'" Or justification for the numbers--all the evacuees from Khar'kov, Mariupol have wanted (or at least 99% of them) to go back to that muthuh, Russia. At some point you need to have actual people to justify the 10s of thousands of those personally saved by their messiah Putin.
AllyCat
(16,031 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,433 posts)GP6971
(31,013 posts)Wingus Dingus
(8,049 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)I worry that we're witnessing the start of a full blown genocide.
Wingus Dingus
(8,049 posts)This is so crazy. How do they think this will work, in the modern age?
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Those war criminals must be held accountable for their actions. 😡
keithbvadu2
(36,360 posts)Putin taking lessons from China and the Uyghurs?
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)PatSeg
(46,773 posts)This is chilling.
chia
(2,235 posts)pbmus
(12,418 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,433 posts)he'll just keep stealing people until he's stopped.
AllyCat
(16,031 posts)This is horrible. This is war crimes. We MUST do everything.
vercetti2021
(10,150 posts)Do we storm Russia like we did with Normandy?
IronLionZion
(45,250 posts)lees1975
(3,718 posts)so they must think having freedom-loving people that close to Russian occupied territory is a problem for them. That's what this war is about, that Ukraine enjoys liberty and Russians don't and Putin is afraid that will spread.
turbinetree
(24,631 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,430 posts)flamingdem
(39,303 posts)Awaiting confirmation. Putin might want a US reaction, he's after some kind of confrontation.
roamer65
(36,739 posts)Putler is trying to eliminate the witnesses.
Duppers
(28,094 posts)NOW!!