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BEIJING, March 20 (Reuters) - A senior Chinese government official said on Saturday that sanctions imposed by Western nations on Russia over Ukraine are increasingly "outrageous".
Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng also acknowledged Moscow's point of view on NATO, saying the alliance should not further expand eastwards, forcing a nuclear power like Russia "into a corner".
China has yet to condemn Russia's action in Ukraine or call it an invasion, though it has expressed deep concern about the war. Beijing has also opposed economic sanctions on Russia over Ukraine, which it says are unilateral and are not authorised by the U.N. Security Council.
"The sanctions against Russia are getting more and more outrageous," Le said at security forum in Beijing, adding that Russian citizens were being deprived of overseas assets "for no reason".
https://www.reuters.com/world/chinese-official-calls-sanctions-russia-increasingly-outrageous-2022-03-19/
Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)chowder66
(9,066 posts)Money over life.
PurgedVoter
(2,216 posts)Just asking.
Midnight Writer
(21,738 posts)Sanctions would be less effective against China, because their economy is so entwined with the rest of the world's countries.
And I don't think China's military is as weak as Russia's "Paper Bear".
NJCher
(35,648 posts)Were unified over the aggression like they are with Ukraine?
China cant keep its economy afloat with NK and Syria as customers.
former9thward
(31,970 posts)The vast majority of countries are not participating in the sanctions. Major countries like India, China, Mexico, and Brazil are not participating. Really only Europe/U.S, have the sanctions. The countries you mentioned are not China's customer base. China is investing hundreds of billions of dollars in infrastructure projects in Asia, Africa and S. America. That is their customers.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)1st and 2nd largest trading partners in the world by far and away. China's 3rd largest trading partner is Japan which is not part of Europe and participating in sanctions. Also not participating in sanctions and not part of Europe is Australia and China's 7th largest trading partner.
China's top export is computers and cell phones. We can manufacture those things here if really wanted to and really hurt China. We have no shortage of lithium in the U.S.
NJCher
(35,648 posts)or would it be educanation?
First: "Really only Europe/U.S, have the sanctions."
Wrong. Wrong-O.
What about Japan?
Australia?
New Zealand?
standingtall corrected you on China's customer base. Furthermore, investment does not = customers, so why would you even bring that up? Irrelevant.
If you want to hurt China, their biggest customers could sanction them. Who are China's biggest customers?
Why surprise surprise, it's the U.S.
The European Union is second.
Japan is up there.
The nation's you mention are down on the list: Brazil, India, and Russia are 11, 12, and 13.
You stand corrected.
former9thward
(31,970 posts)It would blowback on the U.S. economy and hurt the U.S. far more than China and both sides know it. But if you need to think the U.S. controls everything there is nothing in reality that will change your Western centric view of the world.
NJCher
(35,648 posts)you show your limited range of thinking.
IF this is even a factor (that has yet to be analyzed, and just so you know, I once taught a class exclusively on the subject of taking back American manufacturing), sanctions can be selected strategically.
And I won't even address your last statement. Laughable.
former9thward
(31,970 posts)"Strategic" or otherwise. That only one side can impose them.
NJCher
(35,648 posts)I see how they are working. Most Americans, according to surveys, say that they will pay the extra when it comes to gasoline.
Accordingly, people just might supportother sanctions against China.
Furthermore, it might just be the impetus to regain some of our manufacturing. Technology has made some of it practical.
You don't seem to be able to project or think through issues.
NJCher
(35,648 posts)I guess I needed to give you this:
lame54
(35,281 posts)To learn how to kick invaders asses
orwell
(7,771 posts)...when you are invading a country and killing it's civilian population.
Genocide is outrageous.
Crimes against humanity are outrageous.
Running a kleptocracy is outrageous.
Violating international law is outrageous.
Poisoning your political opponents is outrageous.
Using cluster bombs and thermobaric weapons is outrageous.
Criminalizing dissent is outrageous.
As for the frozen assets, we're just holding Russia's "security deposit" so after they are finished trashing the place, we can use the money to repair it.
Unfortunately, all of the dead citizens blood won't wash away the shame of China or Russia for supporting this mass murder, this slaughter of choice.
Oh and by the way, Le Yucheng, go fuck yourself...
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,463 posts)China?
PirateRo
(933 posts)I dont think the sanctions go far enough if somewhere someone thinks a penalty imposed for the criminal invasion of a sovereign country is a problem. I think we may be way overdue on China sanctions.
lame54
(35,281 posts)Over the sound of all the explosions
treestar
(82,383 posts)They are deeply concerned. But it's not an invasion.
Takket
(21,552 posts)yeah nothing sucks like being forced into a 6.6 million square mile "corner"