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CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:45 AM Mar 2022

Our next president will be a female POC.

After watching the Stacey Abrams interview yesterday and seeing our VP taking her own leadership role alongside President Biden, I am convinced that this is the future. Those two women are exceptional, not because they are exceptions to any rule, but because we, the Democrats, have played the role of empowering, to the extent that we can, their ascendancy. But with their tough minds, willingness to do what it takes, and their brilliance, they will lead the way.

I am gratified at this, at long last! But I don't doubt that it will be tough. Fortunately, women such as these two outstanding leaders, will be tougher.

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Our next president will be a female POC. (Original Post) CTyankee Mar 2022 OP
And we'd sure better have her back. Mister Ed Mar 2022 #1
Progress is made only when people stand up and fight back. CTyankee Mar 2022 #4
Hillary was exceptional and she did not become president. milestogo Mar 2022 #2
Why be so defeatist? I didn't say this will be easy because it won't. But it will be easier after CTyankee Mar 2022 #5
Most people who get a major party nomination can be said to be exceptional karynnj Mar 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Mar 2022 #17
Hillary had considerable foreign policy experience PatSeg Mar 2022 #26
As did John Kerry, from many years on SFRC, and Al Gore, from years on Armed Services karynnj Mar 2022 #32
I think Hillary got most of her PatSeg Mar 2022 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #3
K&R, the how do we ignore Harris as president microagression is childish on its face uponit7771 Mar 2022 #6
I thought POC was Piece of Crap? Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #7
Person of Color. You are thinking of POS. CTyankee Mar 2022 #10
Oh yes. I'm embarrassed. I really dislike acronyms. Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #11
Hey, it happens! CTyankee Mar 2022 #12
I forget where I heard this story, but it sounds like something I would do... momta Mar 2022 #22
I dislike most of them as well PatSeg Mar 2022 #23
Too soon to tell left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #8
Unfortunately some folks just don't want to look or they say "Oh, nobody I've seen is qualified." CTyankee Mar 2022 #9
Time will tell left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #14
If Biden wins in 2024, 2028 will likely go t a Republican Polybius Mar 2022 #15
First we need to get Stacey elected Governor of GA. And that will be difficult. SYFROYH Mar 2022 #16
Through all the stupid and evil we see Stacy shine! That encourages me and gives me hope. CTyankee Mar 2022 #21
She does shine. I hope she wins. SYFROYH Mar 2022 #38
The Democrats could fight all this quite effectively with one ballot measure: PatrickforB Mar 2022 #29
I'm with you on that. Stacey is for legalization and taxation of cannabis. SYFROYH Mar 2022 #37
It will be all over if the fascist gain power in 2022. They will install a dictator. nt Hotler Mar 2022 #18
I love Stacey Ishoutandscream2 Mar 2022 #19
Me too. liberalla Mar 2022 #25
Hopefully not Nikki Haley IronLionZion Mar 2022 #20
My theory is that he knew this and planned ahead for any eventuality. CTyankee Mar 2022 #24
Stacey Abrams is outstanding. I'd love her to be president. PatrickforB Mar 2022 #27
My trump neighbor calls her laugh "cacly" and the women on the View "cacling" I think he means CTyankee Mar 2022 #40
A perfect combo of misogyny and racism PatrickforB Mar 2022 #42
That's a lovely notion, PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2022 #28
I don't think we should rule out white females or male POCs... gulliver Mar 2022 #30
In America? RobinA Mar 2022 #31
I hope so! LymphocyteLover Mar 2022 #33
I think you're being overly optimistic, but it WILL happen eventually FakeNoose Mar 2022 #34
I'm thinking that Both are too good for the country and would not be supported or appreciated! nt Samrob Mar 2022 #35
... Skittles Mar 2022 #39
Let's hope so. hamsterjill Mar 2022 #41
Or Michelle Obama? Dirty Socialist Mar 2022 #43
I really don't think she would run, really, so I never gave it a thought. CTyankee Mar 2022 #46
I'll be happy to see a POC (especially female). lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #44
I think it's a mistake to lump Stacey Abrams and Kamala Harris together. Ron Green Mar 2022 #45
I only say that because as VP she would be next in line, so to speak. CTyankee Mar 2022 #47

Mister Ed

(5,927 posts)
1. And we'd sure better have her back.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:50 AM
Mar 2022

Because whoever she is, she'll face all the cruel misogyny that Hillary Clinton endured, and all the vicious racism that Barack Obama faced.
We need to have her back 1000 percent.

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
4. Progress is made only when people stand up and fight back.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 08:55 AM
Mar 2022

HRC had Bill's baggage going against her. Also, being the first woman candidate for President of a major party was a very tough struggle.

If we want to be the Party of the Future, we'd better get this done!

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
5. Why be so defeatist? I didn't say this will be easy because it won't. But it will be easier after
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 09:02 AM
Mar 2022

going through it with HRC.

We'll have a crop of newer, young voters, male and female, who will want to see a woman POTUS.

We shall overcome.

karynnj

(59,500 posts)
13. Most people who get a major party nomination can be said to be exceptional
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 10:14 AM
Mar 2022

Obviously, we can EASILY name exceptions. However, for most of them, you can make a case for them being exceptional. It is true, that they also all will have some concentrating on what they call their flaws. At this point, HRC is the only woman who got that far. This would not have happened unless other powerful people, who knew her personally and who could see her as a good president.

You could also have said both Al Gore, an excellent VP, and John Kerry, a war hero who eloquently led efforts to end the Vietnam War were as exceptional.

Response to karynnj (Reply #13)

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
26. Hillary had considerable foreign policy experience
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:38 AM
Mar 2022

The next presidential candidate will need that as well, especially in the world we are living in. Meanwhile, Biden has only served one year of his first term. It is a bit early to be planning our next nominee. A lot can happen between now and the next Democratic primary. If Joe is still healthy in 2024, I am quite sure he will run again.

karynnj

(59,500 posts)
32. As did John Kerry, from many years on SFRC, and Al Gore, from years on Armed Services
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 12:27 PM
Mar 2022

and his years as VP. Arguably, both had more foreign policy experience and knowledge as Hillary. Not to mention, Biden had something like 30 years on SFRC and 8 years as VP. It is hard to compare with HRC, because her main foreign policy experience was as First Lady and a short time on the armed services committee, but both of these two men were at least comparable.

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
36. I think Hillary got most of her
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 01:07 PM
Mar 2022

foreign policy credentials from being Secretary of State. There have been very few presidential candidates who had as much relevant foreign policy experience as Joe Biden though. I believe that was one of the main reasons why Obama chose him as his VP. He knew so many foreign leaders by their first name. During the Bush years, they often called Joe before they called GW.

He certainly was the perfect presidential choice for this time in history.

Response to CTyankee (Original post)

momta

(4,079 posts)
22. I forget where I heard this story, but it sounds like something I would do...
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:29 AM
Mar 2022

A teen texted their mom some sad news that a friend's relative had just died. The mom responded with "LOL". When her kid asked why she would respond with "Laughing Out Loud" to news of a death, her mom replied, "Oh! I thought it meant 'Lots of Love!'"

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
23. I dislike most of them as well
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:31 AM
Mar 2022

I often spend far too much time trying to figure out what a person is trying to say. It may save time in writing (a split second), but the time spent deciphering the many acronyms out there often causes misunderstandings and a lot of frustration.

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
9. Unfortunately some folks just don't want to look or they say "Oh, nobody I've seen is qualified."
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 09:50 AM
Mar 2022

For me, I see Stacey as our next born leader. She convinces me every time I see her and hear her speak.
For some folks a black woman will never be qualified, no matter what.

Polybius

(15,364 posts)
15. If Biden wins in 2024, 2028 will likely go t a Republican
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 10:28 AM
Mar 2022

Usually, things go in cycles. One Party hasn't won three elections in a row since 1988.

SYFROYH

(34,165 posts)
16. First we need to get Stacey elected Governor of GA. And that will be difficult.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:02 AM
Mar 2022

I voted for Stacey once and I will again. I know Stacey will bring it and I've donated to her campaign, but Kemp is not the ignoramus that he appears.

The Kemp is setting things up for the win including tax breaks, $5,000 raises to state workers, installing Sonny Perdue as Chancellor of the University System, Gas-tax break of $30 per gallon, and a surging economy that has overfilled the state coffers.

Accessible election processes have been rolled back enough to interfere with Democratic voting and more may come.

And then there are the red meat, dog-whistle bills with his support.

GUNS IN PUBLIC: House Bill 1358 and Senate Bill 319 would abolish Georgia's requirement for a background check and license to carry a handgun in public. Republicans say it infringes on Second Amendment gun rights for people to have to apply for a permit and pay a fee, usually about $75.

CRITICAL RACE THEORY: House Bill 1084 and Senate Bill 377 would ban the teaching of certain racial concepts that Republicans say are divisive. Opponents say the measure would frighten teachers away from an honest classroom discussion of race in history and the present.

TRANSGENDER ATHLETES: Transgender boys and girls would be banned from playing on the school sports teams matching their gender identity under Senate Bill 435.

PARENT BILL OF RIGHTS: House Bill 1178 and Senate Bill 449 put into one law a number of parental rights that already exist including saying parents have the right to review all classroom materials.

SOCIAL MEDIA REGULATION: Senate Bill 393 seeks to prohibit social media platforms from removing or censoring content.

VACCINE MANDATES: Senate Bill 345 would prevent state agencies and local governments from requiring COVID-19 vaccines.

MASKS IN SCHOOLS: Senate Bill 514 would allow parents to exclude their children from mask mandates.


Having said all that -- Go Stacey!



PatrickforB

(14,566 posts)
29. The Democrats could fight all this quite effectively with one ballot measure:
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:51 AM
Mar 2022

Legalize cannabis. Young people, who tend to vote D, will flock to the polls.

SYFROYH

(34,165 posts)
37. I'm with you on that. Stacey is for legalization and taxation of cannabis.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 06:26 PM
Mar 2022

But she hasn't made a big deal of it yet.

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
20. Hopefully not Nikki Haley
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:28 AM
Mar 2022

Kamala would be president if God forbid anything happens to Joe while in office.

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
24. My theory is that he knew this and planned ahead for any eventuality.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:31 AM
Mar 2022

He also, being a wise man, knew that her VP slot gives her visibility and an opportunity to shine. What she does with it will hopefully to go for the top job when the opportunity presents itself.

PatrickforB

(14,566 posts)
27. Stacey Abrams is outstanding. I'd love her to be president.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:49 AM
Mar 2022

Harris has done well, too, but the media has not given her the coverage she right should have based on the important missions she's taken on. I guess we can call that what it is - institutional misogyny and racism.

As to Abrams, she has done so much for voting rights it isn't even funny. A great American and genuine hero.

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
40. My trump neighbor calls her laugh "cacly" and the women on the View "cacling" I think he means
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 12:01 PM
Mar 2022

the verb "cackle."

PatrickforB

(14,566 posts)
42. A perfect combo of misogyny and racism
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:15 PM
Mar 2022

Just like with Obama and Harris, and Jackson now, too. The racists just swarm out from under their slimy rocks.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I consider her an absolutely outstanding American - representative of everything we OUGHT to be but aren't.

An amusing aside - I have a dear friend who says, everytime Abrams comes up in discussion, that she is a 'messiah.'

Sometimes I absolutely feel bitter rage against this capitalist, corrupt system, but then I look at people who have really made a difference - MLK and the rest of the Civil Rights leaders, including John Lewis (rest in peace!). But there are more. And Stacey Abrams will go down as an individual who genuinely made us better as a nation.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,839 posts)
28. That's a lovely notion,
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:51 AM
Mar 2022

but you are vastly underestimating both the racism and sexism in this country. Not to mention how effectively Republicans are limiting voting rights everywhere they hold power

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
30. I don't think we should rule out white females or male POCs...
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:57 AM
Mar 2022

...or anyone with talent. And, of course, I believe you're just rooting for a particular identity set in the sense of encouragement, not in the sense of forbidding voters their right to choose whomever they think is right for the job.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
31. In America?
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 12:14 PM
Mar 2022

Right now? People think Joe Biden is a socialist, and he's a white guy with a decades long record in government. Not happening.

FakeNoose

(32,610 posts)
34. I think you're being overly optimistic, but it WILL happen eventually
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 12:35 PM
Mar 2022

I'm not sure it will happen in my lifetime, but it will happen. I believe that only the Democratic Party can make it happen, and the Repukes will (of course) fight it tooth and nail.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
41. Let's hope so.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 12:10 PM
Mar 2022

We should be so lucky!

I have my doubts, however, because of the cheating that the Republicans openly get away with. I live in Texas, so you have to forgive my cynicism.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
43. Or Michelle Obama?
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:28 PM
Mar 2022

Even though she has little experience, I hear Republican officials secretly fear her prospects if she runs.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
45. I think it's a mistake to lump Stacey Abrams and Kamala Harris together.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:44 PM
Mar 2022

Abrams, perhaps my favorite politician of all, has the brains AND the heart we need at the highest level. Unfortunately she doesn’t have the svelte media-friendly look of Harris, who I sense has more political savvy than human understanding: not the ideal makeup.

CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
47. I only say that because as VP she would be next in line, so to speak.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 02:41 PM
Mar 2022

In fact, Joe might have had exactly that in mind when he asked her to join him on the team. I trust his judgement on this.

But Abrams strikes me as so abundantly talented I would be eager to see her our President.

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