Tantalizing teaser from Cheney on 1/6 Committee recommendations

[JudyM]

U.S. Capitol riot probe to reveal new details on attack, Cheney says

…"There will be legislative recommendations and there certainly will be information" on the attack the public has not yet heard, Cheney told NBC-TV's "Meet the Press."
…
The committee is expected to hold public hearings later this spring. Cheney said a top priority will be making recommendations, including possible "additional enhanced criminal penalties."

Such penalties, Cheney added, would be aimed at "the kind of supreme dereliction of duty that you saw with former President Trump when he refused to tell the mob to go home after he provoked that attack on the Capitol."

Cheney told NBC that her work on the committee has only raised her distress about what unfolded that day. "I have not learned a single thing since I have been on this committee that has made me less concerned or less worried about the gravity of the situation and the actions that President Trump took and also refused to take while the attack was underway," she said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-riot-probe-reveal-new-details-attack-cheney-says-2022-03-20/

[sheshe2]

1. K&R

[2naSalit]

2. K&R

It's turning out to sound just as bad as I had expected it to be.

[COL Mustard]

22. And yet certain people will still

Call it "Fake News". You can't convince the unconvincable. It's inconceivable!

[2naSalit]

26. Sadly true.

Don't know what it will take at this point but something has to change and soon.

[malaise]

3. Lock up the Slobfather

That is all

[MiHale]

5. KnR...

[SoCalDavidS]

6. Didn't They Also "Recommend" Meadows Be Indicted?

I still expect DOJ to do Jack Shit.

[jaxexpat]

7. I expect the DOJ is waiting for new legislation that makes treason illegal.

That would explain their feet dragging exercise. Why else would every testimony require 10 substantiating testimonies before it's considered admissible and yet, still delay the proceedings.

That's it, you know; the rule of law is inapplicable when it's the lawmakers themselves who commit the felony.

If the Republicans take the house and/or senate this fall, all the evidence the DOJ has painstakingly built a case from will be thrown out, considered irrelevant and prejudicial. It could get even worse. I'm not even sure Biden wouldn't be removed through some kangaroo impeachment "shenanigans" and whoever ultimately replaces him will pardon everybody and start imprisoning Democrats en masse. What would stop them? The national guard? The capitol police?

[Autumn]

9. I'm not a lawyer and I don't pretend to be one but it seems to me treason is already illegal.

[jaxexpat]

13. Perhaps, "prosecutable" is a better term illegal.

This is a clash between law and politics which has introduced a state of suspended animation to the government and thus, the nation. We're beyond the pale now. It's unknown territory. People who know how things are supposed to work are winging it daily, supporting the pretense that so long as they play within established parameters, the system will work.

[L. Coyote]

10. DoJ has acomplicated task with Meadows, otherwise he's be going to trial on Bannon's schedule.

Meadows is one of the central co-conspirators. If they indict him, they have to reveal all the evidence they have on him. They are waiting for very good reasons. And it's tiresome explaining this ad nauseum.

[czarjak]

8. So, proof, Lizzie?

[7wo7rees]

11. WHEN THIS SPRING?!?!!!

When Liz, WHEN?? QUIT TEASING IT!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. 3 months until Spring over right??

[uponit7771]

12. Establishment Republicans are trying to take the party back, they will but they'll lose votes

[bucolic_frolic]

14. Her weakness is she believes in rule of law while 80% of her party is soft on the issue

She expects reforms to pass, and stick? And what to do about a GOP Congress if we fail to carry the fall elections?

[SheltieLover]

16. Kicking for visibility

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

17. Hope she's right

[Scrivener7]

18. Seems like we oughta do something about that.

[orangecrush]

19. Kick

[DeeDeeNY]

20. Nothing is stopping DOJ to start criminal investigations NOW

Adam Schiff has stated this over and over in numerous interviews. They have Trump ON TAPE threatening the Georgia SOS to “find” him the 11,000+ votes he needs. What more do they need? According to Schiff, the DOJ should also be doing their own Jan. 6 investigations, but separately there is nothing stopping them from proceeding full steam ahead immediately on the matter of those 11,000 votes, if nothing else to prevent him from ever running for office again.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. How do you know that the DoJ hasn't already started investigations?

You, just like everyone else here, doesn't know, and there's a reason for that, you never want to reveal to the defense what your evidence is until it's time to indict.

I trust AG Garland and the DoJ are already investigation.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

29. You have a completely valid point,

and you're right, I don't know, as it should be until it's time for us to know.

You have a great week also.

On a side note, your DU handle, Chin music, does that refer to the violin?

[whyzayker]

21. Replace Merrick Garland.....

....with Sally Yates.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

25. Why?

[spanone]

23. Please, don't tease...Do!

[PJMcK]

30. Something doesn't make sense to me

Cheney says that a top priority could include "additional enhanced criminal penalties."

If I'm not mistaken, the insurrectionists-- including Trump-- can only be charged with crimes that may have been committed on or before January 6, 2021. In other words, Congress cannot pass new laws and charge defendants with violations of those laws for past acts. Isn't that the principle behind the Constitutional prohibition against ex-post-facto laws?

If someone can clarify this, I'd appreciate it!

[JudyM]

33. US Sentencing Guidelines allow for penalties to be increased under certain conditions.

No change in the law necessary.

[lagomorph777]

35. Also, many of the insurrectionists have been insufficiently charged.

I learned in my limited traffic court experience, more charges can be added after the original "ticket" is written. Luckily, in my personal experience, the new charges were as false as the original ones and I got it all dismissed. But these people really did the bad shit. We have it all on tape from multiple camera angles. Nail their asses to the wall.

[PJMcK]

36. Thank you

That makes sense. Greatly appreciate your response.

[JudyM]

37. Update

I just saw the actual video of that part of the interview and it seems that by enhancement she means recommending new legislation to address this situation, rather than “enhanced penalties” which is a term under the existing federal sentencing guidelines.

[PJMcK]

38. That makes sense

Cheney's idea would be to protect against a future coup. Good. Stop the Fascists.

Thanks for the info, JudyM.

[nitpicker]

31. I'll believe it if/when it occurs

Remember when we were all drooling over Mueller's investigation?

And the hearings about Ukraine-gate?

And the two impeachment efforts?

It's now the start of spring, dial me back up at the start of summer.

[Evolve Dammit]

32. I hear ya

[lagomorph777]

34. I hope DOJ doesn't toss the recommendations in the circular file.