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lame54

(35,281 posts)
9. And then the next and then the next...
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:37 PM
Mar 2022

Until someone down the line takes out Putin in premeditated self defense

sdfernando

(4,929 posts)
2. Aleksandr Bortnikov has been head of the FSB
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:20 PM
Mar 2022

since 2008. Same place putzler came up from. Not sure he will be any better.

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
8. Interesting, but unlikely to happen
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:32 PM
Mar 2022

Left to right: Mikhail Fradkov, director of the SVR (Foreign Intelligence Service), president Vladimir Putin, Alexander Bortnikov, director of the FSB (Federal Security Service). Photo: Alexander Druzhinin / TASS.

Bev54

(10,045 posts)
12. I truly think that Ukrainian intelligence is trolling Putin
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:40 PM
Mar 2022

They are putting out information to make him believe there are traitors in his ranks and they are close to him. I think it is brilliant because Putin has already shown how bloody paranoid he is.

calguy

(5,304 posts)
10. Sounds like Ukraine is playing head games with Putin.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 04:37 PM
Mar 2022

Their psychological warfare has been excellent so far. At the very least, they're forcing Putin to think about it.

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FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
21. Remember those 5 letters from the FSB guy (the Russian spy)?
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:28 PM
Mar 2022

He predicted something like this would be happening. He said the 2 spy orgs - FSB and GRU - were trying to outdo each other. He predicted the FSB would probably lose out and Bortnikov was not going to last much longer.

(link) https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16479459

Just sayin'



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