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intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:22 PM Mar 2022

I predict Ukraine emerges from this and rises to become a leader in Europe

Imagine the amount of world support to rebuild that country. It will be fast and it will be impressive, the best of the best, state-of-the-art throughout. They will experience the opposite of "brain drain" when the cream-of-the-crop join the effort: scientists, engineers, architects, teachers, artists, everybody with gratitude and a passion to demonstrate the triumph over evil.

Imagine how strong their military will be; "never again" will become their motto. They will be champions of the little guy, the oppressed, the underdog.

Controversially, but ultimately understandably, they will withdraw from the NPT (Non-Proliferation Treaty) which they signed in 1994--and resulted in their nuclear disarmament--and resume their nuclear program. They will cooperate fully with the West on issues of oversight and control.

They will emerge the strongest and most powerful benevolent democracy Europe has ever experienced. They may even become the center of Europe, playing a massive role in the reaffirmation of democratic principles and practice.

Their voice will be strong in the EU, the UN, NATO, and other western alliances. Their advice will be sought and given to fledgling democracies everywhere.

Ukriane will become Putin's worst nightmare, and he will have nobody to blame but himself.

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PortTack

(32,762 posts)
2. Countries are already stepping up. Italy says they will rebuild the bombed Mariupol theater
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:27 PM
Mar 2022

Israel says they will rebuild the maternity hospital.

I hope all the seized property, be it yachts or property will be sold and go for reparations too!

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
3. Ukraine should become a center for renewable energy.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 05:42 PM
Mar 2022

Break the hold of petrochemical cartels and war states. A free and independent Ukraine may well create a desire from Russia that Ukraine would merely have become a member of EU and NATO.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
6. Saw an interview with a Ukrainian official the other day...
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 06:20 PM
Mar 2022

She said, when asked about joining NATO, "When this is done, NATO will be joining Ukraine."



You have to admire the moxie.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
7. "the strongest and most benevolent democracy Europe has ever seen"
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:07 PM
Mar 2022

Well hell, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Not sure about that. Certainly not as bad as Russia, but Ukraine's reputation
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 07:29 PM
Mar 2022

for corruption — before the invasion — was well known.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/opinion/ukraine-russia-zelensky-putin.html

None of that justifies Putin’s invasion, but a “leader” might be a stretch at this point. 10 or more years from now, if they change, might be possibility.

canetoad

(17,153 posts)
12. They are on the eastern frontier
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 03:04 AM
Mar 2022

But I can see an alliance of Baltic states - Byellorussia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine making an informal or even formal alliance. Give them bargaining power and equality with western Eu states.

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