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brooklynite

(94,376 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 09:20 PM Mar 2022

On Fox News, Russia and "Treason"

A number of voices have suggested going after Tucker Carlson or taking Fox News et al off the air for committing "treason" through pro-Russia stories.

18 U.S. Code § 2381 says: "Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason"

Here's the problem. Russia is not an "enemy" of the United States. It is acting in violation of international law, and the US has chosen to impose sanctions on that basis. However, we still maintain diplomatic relations with them. We are not at war with them, and they are not at war with us.

Speaking in favor of Russia, even in favor of its military actions and war crimes, is not "giving aid and comfort" to an enemy of the United States. It is giving aid and comfort to an enemy of Ukraine. As reprehensible as that is, it is not a violation of the First Amendment.

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On Fox News, Russia and "Treason" (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2022 OP
Thank You!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #1
Exactly. Tucker's comeuppance is going to be outside the legal realm as no laws were broken. Gore1FL Mar 2022 #2
Cherry picking. Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #3
Furthermore, the Supreme Court has ruled Mariana Mar 2022 #4

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,264 posts)
1. Thank You!!!!
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 09:30 PM
Mar 2022

If or until we're at war with Russia, the 1st Amendment applies to all Americans, whether or not we like the message.

I may not like what one has to say, but I will defend their right to say it.

Gore1FL

(21,104 posts)
2. Exactly. Tucker's comeuppance is going to be outside the legal realm as no laws were broken.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 09:47 PM
Mar 2022

His actions do require him to be broken publicly as a traitor, and a cancer on our society, culture, and nation. But that exists in the realm of public opinion, the platforms that allow him, and his general ability to appear in public without "commentary."

Tetrachloride

(7,819 posts)
3. Cherry picking.
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 10:53 PM
Mar 2022

Legally protected speech according to some.

Encouraging the killer of thousands of civilians. The weaker, the better.

Sarcasm may be seen amidst a bleak set of deaths.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
4. Furthermore, the Supreme Court has ruled
Sun Mar 20, 2022, 11:23 PM
Mar 2022

that "giving aid and comfort" to an enemy of the United States means giving them material aid and comfort. Speaking in support of an enemy is not treason.

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