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SingleSeatBiggerMeat

(220 posts)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:28 AM Oct 2012

I Am Not A Grassy Knoll Kind Of Guy.....

But, for the rest of my life, I will never forget how the vast majority of the media spun this election as a razor-thin, cliff-hanger, nail-biting, to-close-to-call election when, in fact, Romney has never, ever, once outlined a likely map that shows him with 270 EVs. He has been in "Hail Mary" mode since he selected Paul Ryan.

That amazing clown show of Chuck Todd and David Gregory this morning was just embarassing.
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I Am Not A Grassy Knoll Kind Of Guy..... (Original Post) SingleSeatBiggerMeat Oct 2012 OP
Sounds like someone took the red pill. Raster Oct 2012 #1
Welcome to the other side of the looking glass. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #2
I am a grassy knoll kind of guy - I BELIEVE what my EYES see. chimpymustgo Oct 2012 #3
Me too. The Powers That Be have turned on Obama big time. bklyncowgirl Oct 2012 #10
+1 n/t Mister Ed Oct 2012 #11
Not to worry Fumesucker Oct 2012 #15
You remember what Bill Hicks had to say on the subject? Nevernose Oct 2012 #23
How could you stand to look at that devil looking thing for 1/2 hour? lonestarnot Oct 2012 #4
This election cycle will remain in our memories long after you have ceased to remember it. iemitsu Oct 2012 #5
This has been going on since the Iowa caucuses... EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #7
I remember it well, as I remember the other stolen elections since 2000. iemitsu Oct 2012 #20
Hope you are right and we see the end to the apathy. n/t EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #21
Well, I hope I'm right too. iemitsu Oct 2012 #22
Not the text books in Texas! xtraxritical Oct 2012 #9
No, I suppose that Texas will never admit that republican tactics, iemitsu Oct 2012 #18
I think the whole post WWII era will be written about as an example of what happens when people stop Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #14
High school textbooks still don't mention the business plot against Roosevelt Fumesucker Oct 2012 #16
Agree! ananda Oct 2012 #6
They HAVE to report that it is close lobodons Oct 2012 #8
Mitt's only road to victory is the lowest of roads Blue Owl Oct 2012 #12
Just don't forget it when they make things a little easier and everybody else starts going on Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #13
With regard to the MSNBC (now NBC) personnel Samantha Oct 2012 #17
I am one of those "Grassy Knoll" guys. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #19

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
3. I am a grassy knoll kind of guy - I BELIEVE what my EYES see.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:42 AM
Oct 2012

There has been a tectonic shift in the media coverage since the first debate. The word came down from "on high".

Like the Des Moines Register publisher dictating to the editorial board. The people who sign the checks have put the hammer down. We get the occasional email from CEO's threatening their employees about how to vote. You know it's happening exponentially across corporate America.

Media folks - including Chuck Todd and David Gregory - who are very well-paid - aren't stupid.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
10. Me too. The Powers That Be have turned on Obama big time.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:14 PM
Oct 2012

I have a theory that corporate America allows Democrats to be elected President for two reasons. Reason one is to clean up the mess that Republicans have made. Reason two is to get corporate America something that no Republican president could ever in a million years get them.

The economy is improving and may in the next year be posed to take off. Mission accomplished and now it's back to Republicans and tax cuts for the people that matter. Moreover, Obama has disappointed them, by biting, as they see it, the hand that fed him. His name is mud on Wall Street. As puny as Dodd Frank may have been in our opinions, it has outraged the financial community. I think the real thing they wanted was serious cuts to Medicare and Social Security--possibly even privatization, the wet dream of the financial community.

Bill Clinton won a second term but Clinton gave them NAFTA. Obama has not delivered for them in the way they hoped. Corporate America will do anything it can to defeat him and that makes me love the man even more.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
15. Not to worry
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:53 PM
Oct 2012

There's still the lame duck session of Congress coming up and the pressure will be intense for a "grand bargain".

Remember that only Nixon could go to China.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
23. You remember what Bill Hicks had to say on the subject?
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:34 PM
Oct 2012

His theory is that regardless of who gets elected, some guys in black suits take the President-Elect into a small room, right before the inauguration, and show them a film of the JFK assassination. From an angle that no one has ever seen before.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
5. This election cycle will remain in our memories long after you have ceased to remember it.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:20 AM
Oct 2012

The cheating and lying sponsored by the Republican Party and their PR/propaganda wing, the mainstream media will become legendary.
High school text books will recount this episode in American history as an example of what happens when the electorate becomes complacent. Figures like Tom Brokaw (and of course Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, et al.) will be categorized in the same class as Leni Riefenstahl (well, not really. Riefenstahl actually had some talent) or Tokyo Rose.
We will remember.

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
7. This has been going on since the Iowa caucuses...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:03 PM
Oct 2012

and it will continue.

2012 Iowa Caucuses:

Rick Santorum - Final total: 29,839 Change: -168
Mitt Romney - Final total: 29,805 Change: -210

It’s a tie for the ages.

There are too many holes in the certified totals from the Iowa caucuses to know for certain who won, but Rick Santorum wound up with a 34-vote advantage.


http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2012/01/19/register-exclusive-2012-gop-caucus-count-unresolved/

Old news, right? How soon we forget.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
20. I remember it well, as I remember the other stolen elections since 2000.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 06:54 PM
Oct 2012

At first those who complained were "sore losers" and conspiracy theorists (nut cases or cry-babies) but evidence slowly revealed that something was amiss with our elections.
Many ignored the evidence or didn't hear about it before the 2004 election but afterward they heard the same complaints (except it was Ohio instead of Florida).
When Obama won election it seemed that the cheating might have been nothing but sour grapes on the part of democrats but now it appears that he won by such huge margins that the cheating did not alter the outcome of the election (just made the victory more slim).
This election cycle the cheating/suppression has been so blatant and it has been documented in ways not done earlier (many caught tossing or altering voter registration cards, legislators opening advocating making it hard for ethnic minorities and the elderly to vote, and more people aware of and watching for irregularities). Even the network news has mentioned some of this years issues. It is becoming harder for average citizens to remain unaware of the problems associated with electronic voting machines and since major papers have commented on conflict of interest issues, such as Tagg Romney owning interest in voting machines that will count votes in the upcoming election, even more are talking about stolen elections (i think the added shock, felt by many, at the open racism sponsored by the republican party has also caused some to pay more attention to what is being said during this election cycle).
It is hard to convince people, who live in the world's greatest country, that something or someone is gaming their system. To admit that, one has to see us like we see others (pawns and puppets ripe for exploitation). But once the reality of the situation is recognized by the majority we will see some angry Americans.
People don't like being tricked or fooled. They will remember that.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
22. Well, I hope I'm right too.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 10:31 PM
Oct 2012

Though I've been wrong many times before when it comes to betting on the American electorate.
My problem can be explained by the Dunning-Kruger Effect, which describes the inverse relationship between competence and confidence and also explains that people assess others intellect and skills to be roughly equal to their own.
I am constantly crediting others with thinking skills only to discover, after getting to know them, that they have none.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
18. No, I suppose that Texas will never admit that republican tactics,
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 06:09 PM
Oct 2012

many hatched in Texas, are anything but above-board and fair-play. They love exporting their bigotry to the rest of us via high school texts. I make sure my students are aware of the source and bias of their texts. "Always ask, What is the purpose behind this presentation?"
It would take a massive, nation-wide, cognitive dissonant event/moment, where enough Americans woke up to the reality of our sorry, non-free existence, that we actually took action and changed the situation, to make any headway into Texas.
I don't expect to see that day but it sure would be nice.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
14. I think the whole post WWII era will be written about as an example of what happens when people stop
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:49 PM
Oct 2012

paying attention and get stupid. Eternal vigilance and all that.

Of course it's even more likely that whatever regime runs that world in that distant future will simply scrub the whole existence of the United States of America from history altogether.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. High school textbooks still don't mention the business plot against Roosevelt
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:55 PM
Oct 2012

They won't say jack squat about this campaign.

Wouldn't be prudent.

ananda

(28,868 posts)
6. Agree!
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:21 AM
Oct 2012

I think that candidates run according to their own internals,
and those obviously look good for Obama and bad for Romney.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
8. They HAVE to report that it is close
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:04 PM
Oct 2012

So that it won't seem as fishy when the voter machine "glitches" start to happen and the results are flipped to give election to Romney.

No grassy Knoll here, this has happened not only Nationally in 2000 and 2004, but repeatedly in Wisconsin with Kathy Nicklaus finding votes in her computer the morning after taking the damn thing home with her.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
13. Just don't forget it when they make things a little easier and everybody else starts going on
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

about how great the turnaround is. This is the cycle they use to suck us in, and with each iteration things are worse than the time before.

& R

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
17. With regard to the MSNBC (now NBC) personnel
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:20 PM
Oct 2012

I think it is the Comcast influence. Todd and Gregory are covering their own flanks for job security reasons. Just my opinion.

Sam

David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
19. I am one of those "Grassy Knoll" guys.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 06:12 PM
Oct 2012

And so was the United States House of Representatives in their findings in the 1970's.

That said, I agree with you post. CNN is really in the tank now for Romney. Everyday they let more air out of their bag.

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