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Person of Interest

(365 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:15 AM Mar 2022

Pro-Trump group sent armed members door-to-door in Colorado to "intimidate" voters: Lawsuit


Voting rights groups have filed a lawsuit seeking to stop a pro-Trump group from going door-to-door in Colorado in search of evidence to support voter fraud allegations that have already been debunked and rejected by courts.

The lawsuit alleges that the U.S. Election Integrity Plan — led by Shawn Smith, an ally of former Trump strategist Steve Bannon and MyPillow founder Mike Lindell — is sending armed members door-to-door in areas with large numbers of voters of color, questioning people about how they voted and taking photographs of their homes.


https://www.salon.com/2022/03/21/pro-group-sent-armed-members-door-to-door-in-colorado-to-intimidate-voters/
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Pro-Trump group sent armed members door-to-door in Colorado to "intimidate" voters: Lawsuit (Original Post) Person of Interest Mar 2022 OP
Illegal. Boomerproud Mar 2022 #1
It was also illegal gab13by13 Mar 2022 #7
No, it wasn't. brooklynite Mar 2022 #11
Not what DOJ stated; gab13by13 Mar 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author KPN Mar 2022 #19
They violated, gab13by13 Mar 2022 #22
Oops. Posted in the wrong place. KPN Mar 2022 #24
Citation? Source? KPN Mar 2022 #25
I so wish llashram Mar 2022 #2
The whole reason the fascist want TFG back is so they can punish, hurt and kill Dem's and Lib's. nt Hotler Mar 2022 #3
Yes. They are drooling. dchill Mar 2022 #4
Can't They Also File A Criminal Complaint? Me. Mar 2022 #5
Republican a-holes waving their weeny-peenie substitutes in American faces Achilleaze Mar 2022 #6
This is why it's good to have a way of seeing who is knocking on your door. GoodRaisin Mar 2022 #8
Excellent point. niyad Mar 2022 #10
They might want to remember that rwnj's are not the only ones armed here in niyad Mar 2022 #9
I repeat, DOJ sent a stern letter gab13by13 Mar 2022 #12
Maybe Susan Collins can send them a concerned worded letter. Ray Bruns Mar 2022 #13
And the media can play bothsiderism AZLD4Candidate Mar 2022 #17
They trying to intimidate voters ? KS Toronado Mar 2022 #14
That's what the Stormtroopers (the SA) was for at the beginning AZLD4Candidate Mar 2022 #15
Try it BGBD Mar 2022 #16
Ask them for their badge number, no badge or cause it is your ground. gordianot Mar 2022 #21
For clarification BGBD Mar 2022 #30
Anyone comes to my house armed iemanja Mar 2022 #20
I am a Democrat...yellow dog variety. But like most here I would defend my life... Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #23
LoCK THEM UP !! TeamProg Mar 2022 #26
Jewish Space Pillows. Bow To The Robots Mar 2022 #27
This is the first I've seen this.. mountain grammy Mar 2022 #28
A group of armed men who show up at my door Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #29
If they break the law, people can call the police. everyonematters Mar 2022 #31
I could post a "nicer" response, but this was my first thought: Atticus Mar 2022 #32
Fascist is as fascist does Hassler Mar 2022 #33
Maybe they will get "lucky" drmeow Mar 2022 #34
I guess a lot of Republicans deserve to be hanged! DemocraticPatriot Mar 2022 #35

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
7. It was also illegal
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:31 AM
Mar 2022

what DOJ allowed the Cyber Ninjas to do, this is one of the ramifications of DOJ doing nothing.

Someone needs to write another stern letter, the 1st one was ignored.

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
11. No, it wasn't.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:41 AM
Mar 2022

Once the election was certified by Arizona authorities, the ballots were no longer election records to be tampered with; they were archival documents. No law violation (certainly not a Federal one) making them available to outside parties.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
18. Not what DOJ stated;
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:23 AM
Mar 2022

The U.S. Department of Justice on Wednesday expressed concerns that a controversial audit and recount of the November election in Arizona's Maricopa County may be out of compliance with federal laws.

Pamela Karlan, the principal deputy assistant attorney general with the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, wrote in a letter that federal officials see two issues with the election review ordered by the Republican-led state Senate.

One issue is that ballots, voting systems and other election materials are no longer in the custody of election officials — a possible violation of federal law, which requires state and local election workers to store and safeguard federal voting records.

Title 52 U.S.C.

20701. Retention and preservation of records and papers by officers of elections; deposit with custodian; penalty for violation
Every officer of election shall retain and preserve, for a period of twenty-two months from the date of any general, special, or primary election of which candidates for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, or Resident Commissioner from the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico are voted for, all records and papers which come into his possession relating to any application, registration, payment of poll tax, or other act requisite to voting in such election, except that, when required by law, such records and papers may be delivered to another officer of election and except that, if a State or the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico designates a custodian to retain and preserve these records and papers at a specified place, then such records and papers may be deposited with such custodian, and the duty to retain and preserve any record or paper so deposited shall devolve upon such custodian. Any officer of election or custodian who willfully fails to comply with this section shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.


( Pub. L. 86–449, title III, §301, May 6, 1960, 74 Stat. 88 .)

Response to brooklynite (Reply #11)

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. Republican a-holes waving their weeny-peenie substitutes in American faces
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:29 AM
Mar 2022

to try and kill American democracy, is a fugging lowlife crime.

Shame on them and their fugly fascist faces.

GoodRaisin

(8,908 posts)
8. This is why it's good to have a way of seeing who is knocking on your door.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:34 AM
Mar 2022

If I look out and see assholes armed with weapons I’m calling police to come.

niyad

(113,074 posts)
9. They might want to remember that rwnj's are not the only ones armed here in
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:38 AM
Mar 2022

Colorado. Just amoung my circle of friends and acquaintences, I know at least seven who have guns.

gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
12. I repeat, DOJ sent a stern letter
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:44 AM
Mar 2022

to the Republican Senate in Arizona.

The letter asked the Senate to make sure that Cyber Ninjas weren't violating the law by allowing ballots, voter information, and election materials and equipment to be out of the possession of election officials.

The letter also "asked" the Senate to check to see that canvassers going door to door were not intimidating voters.

Here, read the stern letter that permitted all of these fraudits and door to door intimidation.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/06/994246426/justice-department-shares-concerns-with-arizona-senate-audit-recount

What the Cyber Ninjas did was not just a violation of state law, it also violated federal law.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,639 posts)
15. That's what the Stormtroopers (the SA) was for at the beginning
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:16 AM
Mar 2022

And why are people still wondering how and why the Nazis came to power

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
16. Try it
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:17 AM
Mar 2022

But better be very careful in those stand your ground or make my day states
Colorado has a make my day law, right?

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
30. For clarification
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:57 PM
Mar 2022

Colorado's make my day law ends at the door.....so porches don't apply. But if they cross that plane it's their ass.

iemanja

(53,016 posts)
20. Anyone comes to my house armed
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:56 AM
Mar 2022

I close the door and call the police immediately.

No one has any right to threaten with guns someone in their home.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
23. I am a Democrat...yellow dog variety. But like most here I would defend my life...
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 12:38 PM
Mar 2022

heaven help the RWNJ that shows up on my property with a gun and threatens me.

 
27. Jewish Space Pillows.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:05 PM
Mar 2022

Haha, the My Pillow guy! I swear he is paid under the table by FOX so they have something to talk about. I'm surprised these goons were armed only with guns and not Jewish Space Lasers!

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
28. This is the first I've seen this..
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:05 PM
Mar 2022

Colorado is mostly a Democratic state government so there will be consequences. Imagine this going on in red states, and I'm sure it is. Terrifying.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
29. A group of armed men who show up at my door
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 01:22 PM
Mar 2022

will be left to stare at my locked door while I call police and my husband gets his shotgun.

everyonematters

(3,432 posts)
31. If they break the law, people can call the police.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 02:21 PM
Mar 2022

They have already done this in two states and found noting. It will only strengthen the argument that there was no fraud.

Is it legal in Colorado to go around in public sporting a gun like a cowboy?

drmeow

(5,012 posts)
34. Maybe they will get "lucky"
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:04 PM
Mar 2022

and chance on a gun owning white person with a castle doctrine mentality who won't wait to ask questions first when that person sees someone armed on their property

DemocraticPatriot

(4,310 posts)
35. I guess a lot of Republicans deserve to be hanged!
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 02:12 AM
Mar 2022

:::snip:::


Shawn Smith, the head of USEIP last month led a "lock her up" chant while discussing Griswold at a rally and said that "if you're involved in election fraud, you deserve to hang."

:::snip:::

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