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ck4829

(35,070 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:00 AM Mar 2022

Please don't repeat anything claimed by Russia's govt or state media without additional verification

On DU, any other site, on social media, face to face conversations, etc.

It is pretty much standard operating procedure that Russian state media claims are followed by contradictory claims.

Observe:
1. Russian state media claim Moscow announces temporary ceasefire to let civilians leave two Ukraine cities
Russia’s state-controlled media claimed Saturday that the country’s Defense Ministry has announced a temporary ceasefire in Ukraine to allow civilians to leave the cities of Mariupol and Volnovakha.
https://democraticunderground.com/10142882368
And the subsequent reality:
Russian attacks halt plans to evacuate Ukrainian civilians
A second attempt to evacuate civilians from a besieged city in southern Ukraine collapsed Sunday as Russian attacks stopped plans to create a humanitarian corridor, a Ukrainian government official said, and Pope Francis called for an end to the “rivers of blood and tears” created by the war.
https://democraticunderground.com/10142882911

2. Russia added 7k troops near Ukraine border, says US official
Russia actually added another 7,000 troops to the region, according to White House officials on Wednesday as satellite images captured in the last 48 hours seem to bolster skepticism the United States and its NATO allies have about the Russian assertions that it is withdrawing forces surrounding Ukraine.
https://democraticunderground.com/10142871923
And the subsequent reality:
Russia-Ukraine war live updates: Russia investigated for war crimes as peace talks stall
The International Criminal Court said Monday that it will open an investigation into whether Russia has committed war crimes and crimes against humanity in Ukraine, hours after peace talks in Belarus ended without a clear resolution and shelling continued across Ukraine.
https://democraticunderground.com/10142879586

3. Russia denies looking for pretext to invade Ukraine
Russia's top diplomat angrily rejected U.S. allegations that Moscow was preparing a pretext to invade Ukraine, as Russian troops that are amassed near the Ukraine border launched more drills Monday.
https://democraticunderground.com/10142854788
And the subsequent reality:
Russia invaded Ukraine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

4. Russia says it won't start a war as Ukraine tensions mount
Russia’s top diplomat said Friday that Moscow will not start a war but warned that it wouldn’t allow the West to trample on its security interests amid fears it is planning to invade Ukraine.
https://democraticunderground.com/10142860308
And the subsequent reality:
Russia invaded Ukraine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

5. Russia says attacks not hitting civilians. Scenes in cities tell a different story.
https://democraticunderground.com/10142877729
And the subsequent reality:
Putin and Russian generals served notice by British ambassador they'll be tried for war crimes
Appearing on MSNBC's "The Sunday Show," the British ambassador to the U.S. made it clear that Russian President Vladimir Putin should be held to account for war crimes and send served notice to every Russian general that they will be won't be let off the hook for their actions in Ukraine.
https://democraticunderground.com/10142891576
Kremlin defends bombing hospital
A hospital complex in Mariupol bombed Wednesday resulted in at least three deaths, including one child, Ukraine authorities say. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov dismissed the claim Thursday, saying the hospital had been emptied of patients and was being used as an extremist base.
"This is not the first time when we see pathetic cries about so-called atrocities committed by the Russian armed forces," Lavrov said. "Our delegation presented facts at a meeting of the U.N. Security Council proving that the maternity hospital had long been seized by fighters of the Azov battalion and other radicals. They kicked all patients, all nurses, and all service personnel out."
Later, Russia denied responsibility entirely and claimed the attack was staged to make the Kremlin look bad. Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov denied the strike. He claimed that the two explosions that ravaged the building were caused by explosive devices planted nearby in what he described as a “staged provocation to incite anti-Russian agitation in the West.”
https://democraticunderground.com/10142885816

6. Russia Says They Won't Overthrow Zelensky, Occupy Ukraine
Russia was also pursuing the "demilitarization and denazification" of Ukraine, she said, and sought to eliminate the military threat Ukraine posed to Russia due to its ties with NATO.
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2884919
But also:
Russian Orthodox Church Leader Blames Invasion on Ukraine's 'Gay Pride'
Patriarch Kirill, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, during a Sunday sermon called Russia's "military operation" in Ukraine a conflict over "which side of God humanity will be on" between Russia and Western countries that embrace more progressive values. In particular, he called attention to Ukraine's support of gay rights and the presence of gay pride parades, The Moscow Times reported.
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2884444

Russian, officially here, has done nothing but lie. A whole country with a government on par with Gateway Pundit.

So unless another country or other reputable third party verifies it, you should consider whatever Russia states to be a lie.

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Please don't repeat anything claimed by Russia's govt or state media without additional verification (Original Post) ck4829 Mar 2022 OP
I agree about Russia propaganda at140 Mar 2022 #1
The first casualty in war is the truth. Seems Putin has been at war for Ray Bruns Mar 2022 #2
K&R, the parallels between Russian media TASS and Pravda and FAUX Newz is shocking. They use uponit7771 Mar 2022 #3
K&R ! stonecutter357 Mar 2022 #4

at140

(6,110 posts)
1. I agree about Russia propaganda
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:03 AM
Mar 2022

and actually I do not trust anything I read in MSM as well without verifying it myself the best I can.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
3. K&R, the parallels between Russian media TASS and Pravda and FAUX Newz is shocking. They use
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:29 AM
Mar 2022

... the same half truth position telling and under reporting (especially the economic sanctions for Russians) is gob smacking

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