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Remember the young woman who passed a bus and killed three childten? (Original Post) Catherine Vincent Mar 2022 OP
Bible classes??? WTF! USALiberal Mar 2022 #1
I've read through the Bible a couple of times gratuitous Mar 2022 #2
indeed G_j Mar 2022 #9
There's several places in the Bible that explain... Bucky Mar 2022 #10
Honestly, I'd sentence her post-release to targeted community service to make sure she learns what hlthe2b Mar 2022 #3
Fucking bible studies? Beakybird Mar 2022 #4
sentence adds up to 8 months per kid she skilled Bucky Mar 2022 #12
.Shepherd still has three years of community corrections and three years of probation. She also has riversedge Mar 2022 #5
How would legislation make anyone safer? former9thward Mar 2022 #19
Texting, probably. Girard442 Mar 2022 #6
Seems like I read somewhere about the establishment of religion.. Permanut Mar 2022 #7
And no one is challenging this "bible study" shit? packman Mar 2022 #8
How is this not an egregious church and state violation? Initech Mar 2022 #11
Um. Doesn't the Constitution forbid the establishment of religion? Takket Mar 2022 #13
It's a good thing they didn't drive a friend out of Missouri to get an abortion Norbert Mar 2022 #14
Okay I read the article. I don't see the Bible study. Is there a link for that? Takket Mar 2022 #15
Not seeing a reference to Bible study in the Miguelito Loveless Mar 2022 #16
I found it in another article obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #18
She is only being released six months early from prison, she is not free obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #17
Here's a different article citing the bible class Catherine Vincent Mar 2022 #20

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
10. There's several places in the Bible that explain...
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:47 AM
Mar 2022

... that killing is okay as long as your heart's in the right place.

hlthe2b

(102,194 posts)
3. Honestly, I'd sentence her post-release to targeted community service to make sure she learns what
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:25 AM
Mar 2022

horror she condemned the family and community to bear. Like digging graves for children who've died. Or emptying the bedpans and cleaning the rooms of hospitalized children with cancer. Or maintaining the highway memorials placed by families of children killed in motor vehicle crashes. The full four years of that sentence. And maybe then she can appear at assemblies in high schools to tell the students what SHE has learned from her grotesque negligence and arrogant mistakes.

Beakybird

(3,332 posts)
4. Fucking bible studies?
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:27 AM
Mar 2022

And if she studied secular books about ethics and empathy, she wouldn't have had a single fucking day shaved off. FUUUUUUUUCK!!!

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
12. sentence adds up to 8 months per kid she skilled
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:49 AM
Mar 2022

Apparently the 4 years for triple negligent manslaughter wasn't insult enough.

riversedge

(70,182 posts)
5. .Shepherd still has three years of community corrections and three years of probation. She also has
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:29 AM
Mar 2022

I hope this family DOES advocate for legislation.--it will probably be the only silver lining of his whole horrible incident.




................Shepherd still has three years of community corrections and three years of probation. She also has electronic monitoring and her license suspended for 10 years, WSBT reported.

The children's grandpa, Michael Schwab, said they were preparing for this moment. Now, they just want to do something meaningful for the kids and community.

"She still has to deal with her house arrest and probation, and we don't want that to stand in the way and become a roadblock to achieve the things we want to achieve in life," Schwab said.

Ingle said this is a larger issue than just Shepherd.

More children have been hit at bus stops and they need to advocate for their safety through legislation.

former9thward

(31,964 posts)
19. How would legislation make anyone safer?
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 12:25 PM
Mar 2022

There is already legislation. You have to stop when a school bus has the stop sign out. She ignored the "legislation". How is anything else going to make anyone safer?

Permanut

(5,595 posts)
7. Seems like I read somewhere about the establishment of religion..
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:37 AM
Mar 2022

I think it was some document I read in high school. It'll come to me.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
8. And no one is challenging this "bible study" shit?
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:39 AM
Mar 2022

How can this be allowed? Seems as if the Muslim/Jewish/atheist prison folk would challenge the shit out of this.What a piece of crap literature to study to learn how to be compassionate and responsible to others.

Takket

(21,550 posts)
13. Um. Doesn't the Constitution forbid the establishment of religion?
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:51 AM
Mar 2022

How can we be using religious studies as an influence on punishment in the criminal justice system??? Also, Can’t a prisoner petition the court and say “hey. I want to do a Bible course and then you have to set me free, because equal protection, right???”

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
14. It's a good thing they didn't drive a friend out of Missouri to get an abortion
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:52 AM
Mar 2022

or they would have thrown the book at them.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,458 posts)
16. Not seeing a reference to Bible study in the
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 12:12 PM
Mar 2022

story. Can someone quote the sentence in the article so I can see what I am missing?

obamanut2012

(26,064 posts)
18. I found it in another article
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 12:21 PM
Mar 2022

It took six months off her PRISON stay -- her original release was September. She has total home detention with GPS for three years, then three years of strict probation. No license for 10 years. I think the license should be longer.

obamanut2012

(26,064 posts)
17. She is only being released six months early from prison, she is not free
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 12:13 PM
Mar 2022

And, I agree the Bible Study thing is fucked up, but it took six months off, not two years. In addition, she has basically 100% home detention with GPS for THREE years, and after that, three years of strictly monitored probation, and her license is gone for 10 years. I think it should be for life, but the US doesn't like doing that.

Her life is fucked, and what she did is horrible, but the legal system should be about rehab, but even here on DU, folks act like we should throw the whole person away, even when there is a chance to have them make something productive of their life. Alyssa Shepherd is not Ted Bundy.

And, if you read the articles about this, the children's family is not dwelling, at elast publicly, on what Shepherd did to their family, but how they can celebrate their children, and make the world safer.

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