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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnonymous has hacked unsecured printers across Russia, and proceeded to mass print information
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highplainsdem
(48,892 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,938 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,938 posts)In the Soviet Union, printers were tightly controlled for just these reasons.
FM123
(10,053 posts)tanyev
(42,514 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)...and getting somebody else to pay for it!
ismnotwasm
(41,956 posts)IrishAfricanAmerican
(3,813 posts)Well done!
sky_masterson
(416 posts)are burning these as to not get busted reading them.
Steven Maurer
(458 posts)Don't imagine for a second that most Russians aren't filled with the same kind of arrogant triumphalism that US conservatives are known for.
KS Toronado
(17,138 posts)What percentage, I have no idea.
reACTIONary
(5,766 posts)... about 70%. I can't remember where, and, of course, your polling methodology is not going to be up to the standards of a free, democratic society. But if correct, 30% against is really remarkable.
PatrickforB
(14,558 posts)While 'official' state polls give Putin ~71% popular support for the war, WaPo reports that a group of independent pollsters found that about 58 percent of Russians approve of the invasion of Ukraine, while 23 percent oppose it.
We may credibly estimate that Putin's actual war support by citizens within the four walls of their own flats could be as high as 60%. If this is the case, then 4 in 10 Russians oppose. Support will very likely deteriorate in the same way Russian support of their war in Afghanistan. Any drawn out war with high casualties saps support on the home front. Look at Vietnam for us.
On a personal note, while I do recognize there are times when a people must fight, I feel that war is the ultimate stupidity, because it is generally not driven by ideals but by profits. Make no mistake - the military industrial complex is doing very well out of this war.
Steven Maurer
(458 posts)Setting aside the civilian casualties from the war crimes Russians forces are committing, they're being absolutely - literally - blasted.
If their losses keep up at the rate they currently are, there won't be a land-military left in Russia by summer. Or much of an air force either.
Defense contractors didn't cause this war. Russian arrogance and classic imperialism did.
NJCher
(35,616 posts)On npr. It is splitting up families in Russia, just like it has here in the u.s.
ancianita
(35,926 posts)Hekate
(90,538 posts)wnylib
(21,312 posts)Russian people will at least question what is going on.
I think that initially they are likely to reject the information as foreign propaganda. But they will wonder why anyone is taking so much trouble to get this information to them. They will pay more attention to protesters, talk to people who have sons serving in the military, and try to get information from friends outside of the country.
The truth will eventually sink in.
Hekate
(90,538 posts)calimary
(81,085 posts)But in this context its perfect!
This is the kind of devious strategic thinking I wish our Dems would have.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)calimary
(81,085 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,787 posts)that the companies shown as still doing business in Russia are some of the deepest red/republican corporations in the U.S.?????
And are all known as MAJOR Corporate Republican campaign donors and republican "think tank" and republican PAC organizers and sponsors/??????????????????
Talk about, quite literally, giving aid to the enemy..............
What scum of the earth...............
The Kiss of Death to the U.S. citizens and Democracy:
"U.S. Supreme Court Decision: On January 21, 2010, the court issued a 54 decision in favor of Citizens United that struck down the BCRA's restrictions on independent expenditures from corporate treasuries as violations of the First Amendment.
yardwork
(61,533 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,787 posts)And I find that if I ask people, Repubs and Dems alike, that 99% can't answer my question about how the Citizen's United USSC decision has effected our Democracy............
A perfect title for a book about the past forty+ years would be:
WHILE THE NATION SLEPT
ancianita
(35,926 posts)suffer without food; perhaps Anonymous would happily hack into nightly state TV news, and tell Russians that they should leave for Ukraine, where the whole world is supplying food.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)you read their garbage site unless you join it !!
yesphan
(1,587 posts)spells out the word RUSSIA. Clever.
ToxMarz
(2,162 posts)check and see if your printer is secure.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)NQAS
(10,749 posts)What if anonymous could publish texts/emails promoting liberal positions as if they were coming from Q? These would start with an explanation for the switch, such as Putins war crimes eclipsing any political conflicts between left and right.
And then inundate the cultists with views on conflict with previous Q dots of whatever they call them and in conflict with radical Christian terrorism.
I have no idea how anonymous does its hacking so this might be utterly ridiculous.
PatSeg
(47,239 posts)I am so hooked I have to watch tv all the time!
bif
(22,679 posts)Great job folks!
BGBD
(3,282 posts)Last edited Mon Mar 21, 2022, 09:17 PM - Edit history (1)
Randomly printing messages to 150 printers in a nation of 144 million people?
Of that likely none are being read. If you found your printer randomly printing stuff that you didn't ask it to, would you believe the message?
It doesn't feel like what they have done so far is having really impact on Russia.
txwhitedove
(3,926 posts)Planting seeds...
BGBD
(3,282 posts)So it would be like showing up to the printer and somebody left copies there..
I'd probably take my copies and not touch the rest
FSogol
(45,435 posts)Yay Pranks, I guess.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)They promise they aree going to do something big and then Warcraft goes down for an hour
A couple days ago a study of what they claimed to do was reported. It checked out.
As the poster above pointed out, this is planting the seed.
Furthermore, I think people will read it. I once worked for a big corporation that tried to persuade its 14,000 employees to vote for bush. I resented it and sent out a message to printers all over the business campus about how snakey I thought it was. I got a friend in IT to help me so I wouldnt get caught and lose my job.
The next day EVERYONE was talking about my communication. Everywherein the elevators, the cafeteria, in the halls. I heard our admins whispering about it. Made me feel great.
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SKKY
(11,791 posts)...blocked ports like 69 (TFTP) and such that give someone easy access. This is just Anonymous clearing their throats.
Cha
(296,775 posts)Blue Owl
(50,238 posts)Then stick a loaded gun up your ass
Martin68
(22,755 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)cstanleytech
(26,223 posts)knowingly been working as agents for the Russian government as well as other dirty deeds they might have committed.
That would go a long way towards making it easier for Biden as well as a number of others to deal with the Putin problem preferably permanently.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)The Orwellians called their coup attempt Stop the Steal for a reason, to coverup the coup and the fact they were trying to steal democracy. That wasn't happening apart from the interventions and assistance of Russia, it was a GREAT COLLUSION to upend democracy. The steal succeeded in Belarus, in Ukraine for a while, in the UK to a degree with Brexit, and all these events are interlinked, the weakening of the West and Western unity, along with weakening of the NATO defensive alliance. Now the plot is laid bare and the struggle is out in the open, not a good thing for the criminal, global mafia. It is beginning to seem we are living a James Bond movie.
LAS14
(13,769 posts).... This will be talked about! Word will get out and the "prank" will be talked about. It's certainly being talked about here!