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highplainsdem

(48,956 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:13 PM Mar 2022

The Ukrainians kidnapped and taken to Russia are almost certainly intended for use as human shields.

Last edited Tue Mar 22, 2022, 02:02 PM - Edit history (1)

Putin and his government have repeatedly accused Ukrainian forces of using civilians as human shields, and we know Putin accuses others of what he's planning to do.

They're apparently kidnapping enough Ukrainians to hold them captive at almost every military installation in Russia that Ukraine (if it can get long range weapons) or NATO might strike.


Editing: See reply 15 below. The Russians are already doing this in occupied territory.

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The Ukrainians kidnapped and taken to Russia are almost certainly intended for use as human shields. (Original Post) highplainsdem Mar 2022 OP
Cowards gotta coward. Just planning ahead. dchill Mar 2022 #1
This means that Putin is going to use nukes and anticipates retaliation? Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #2
I'm sure he's anticipating attempts to strike Russian military forces and installations, eventually. highplainsdem Mar 2022 #3
Yes this would mean he expects the war to widen into Russia. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #6
I don't think he feels invincible. sheshe2 Mar 2022 #4
I agree. highplainsdem Mar 2022 #5
He is insane, just like trump. sheshe2 Mar 2022 #7
Not typical of his psych profile. But quite possible. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #8
He is cornered. sheshe2 Mar 2022 #11
Yes a toxic narcissist and ruthless sociopath will become quite dangerous Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #14
Don't you mean "hostages"? Drum Mar 2022 #9
They can obviously be used as both. But Putin's false claim that the Ukrainians are using their own highplainsdem Mar 2022 #10
horrific Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #12
We will find out Meowmee Mar 2022 #13
Report that civilians in occupied territory already being used as human shield: highplainsdem Mar 2022 #15

Irish_Dem

(46,767 posts)
2. This means that Putin is going to use nukes and anticipates retaliation?
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:19 PM
Mar 2022

Putin has taken busloads of children too.

He will use them as well?

No wonder he feels invincible.

highplainsdem

(48,956 posts)
3. I'm sure he's anticipating attempts to strike Russian military forces and installations, eventually.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:42 PM
Mar 2022

And he knows captive Ukrainians as a human shield would be more effective at dissuading strikes than Russian civilians who might support his war.

Irish_Dem

(46,767 posts)
6. Yes this would mean he expects the war to widen into Russia.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:50 PM
Mar 2022

Yes using Ukrainians would be more effective.

sheshe2

(83,708 posts)
7. He is insane, just like trump.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:51 PM
Mar 2022

No other justification for what he is doing. Is this the mountain he wishes to die on?

My heart hurts for Ukraine.

Irish_Dem

(46,767 posts)
8. Not typical of his psych profile. But quite possible.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:52 PM
Mar 2022

For him to feel terrified he would truly have to feel totally cornered with no way out.

Edit to add: He could also be feeling humiliated at the losses he is facing, causing a serious narcissistic wound to his ego. This would make him lash out.

sheshe2

(83,708 posts)
11. He is cornered.
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:08 PM
Mar 2022

He is.

Your last edit. 100% true.

Edit to add: He could also be feeling humiliated at the losses he is facing, causing a serious narcissistic wound to his ego. This would make him lash out.


He is cornered. Humiliated and Will lash out.

May the goddess save us all.

Irish_Dem

(46,767 posts)
14. Yes a toxic narcissist and ruthless sociopath will become quite dangerous
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 11:50 AM
Mar 2022

under these circumstances.

Yes God help us.

highplainsdem

(48,956 posts)
10. They can obviously be used as both. But Putin's false claim that the Ukrainians are using their own
Mon Mar 21, 2022, 11:01 PM
Mar 2022

civilians as human shields makes it more likely that's why so many Ukrainians have been taken to Russia.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
13. We will find out
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 04:24 AM
Mar 2022

There have been wide spread reports of many abuses already. One was of using children in one hospital and other civilians as human shields. They are taking away people’s phones and devices which makes it harder to document.

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