Unconfirmed: Russian troops surrounded in Bucha, Irpin, Hostomel, cut from supplies...

[Donkees]

According to unconfirmed but realistic looking reports, Russian troops have got surrounded in Bucha, Irpin and Hostomel area near Kyiv, cut from supplies. If true - the biggest defeat of a Russian army until now, and Ukraine needs to start worrying about too many POWs.

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[PatSeg]

1. Hope it is true

[MLAA]

2. Fingers crossed it's true!

[GregariousGroundhog]

3. If Ukraine cannot safely handle the number POWs, can they give them to a neutral party?

What are the legal ramifications of a country like Poland taking custody of prisoners of war? Even if it is permissible, how concerned would NATO be over such an arrangement?

[lagomorph777]

5. Legally? Well, I suggest they follow the law as scrupulously as Poo Tin does.

Send them to Antarctica.

[calguy]

6. Just keep them surrounded and starve them out like Putin's doing to their cities.

[lagomorph777]

8. That probably is the cheapest way to handle them.

Blow up all their equipment and just confine the survivors until they fade away.

[TheProle]

38. How's about we encourage Ukraine to observe international law

with respect to prisoners of war and not just always assume that the path forward it to act as bestially as the worst actor in any given situation?

[lagomorph777]

48. They wouldn't technically be prisoners unless they actually surrender.

In which case, sure.

[Vogon_Glory]

40. Actually just separate these birds from their equipment

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Separate these guys from their equipment, then turn their gear, ordinance and ammo to the Ukrainian Army.

As for the POWs, intern them in a neutral country.

In an ideal world, pack them off to Cuba (No, NOT Guantanamo, somewhere in the rest of the island). They’ll be a while getting home.

[JHB]

9. Any moving them to a neutral country would have more oversight and transparency...

...than the Russian Army's moving Ukrainian civilians into parts unknown within Russia.

[lastlib]

25. Move them to Mariupol....

House them in the remaining buildings.

[TheProle]

41. "If they are overloaded I see nothing unethical about executing the captured soldiers."

You should delete this affront to the Geneva Conventions and reexamine your ethics.

http://hrlibrary.umn.edu/instree/y3gctpw.htm

[The Revolution]

44. What?

"I see nothing unethical about executing the captured soldiers."

Really? I mean, that would be a war crime. Even though Russia is committing many of those, I still think it would be best for the Ukrainians to avoid that.

[lagomorph777]

4. That's one of the two major pincer arms trying to get Kyiv.

If true, would be very bad news for Poo Tin.

[uponit7771]

16. +1, and it would NOT be mechanized terrorism against citizens like the RA is doing in Mariupol ....

... seeing RA under RU battle flag insignia.

RA can cut off their supplies and bomb the shit out of them until they surrender.

[lagomorph777]

27. By "RA" do you mean Ukraine?

I can't follow your post at all.

[OMGWTF]

36. I'm guessing it's Russian Army, but that doesn't make sense either.

[uponit7771]

47. UKR Ukrainian country, RA Russian Army, UA Ukr Army ... too many days on OSINT

[lagomorph777]

49. OK. One more mysterious acronym.

What's "OSINT" ?

[uponit7771]

53. Open Source Intel Twitter account with open source satellite connection (link)

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/lists/1490427245097148423

Fairly left leaning too, Russian and GZP bs not suffered

[lagomorph777]

54. OK.

[LiberalFighter]

7. Send them to Guantanamo Bay? Maralago?

[Walleye]

13. 👆

[machoneman]

20. Tucker Carlson's studio? MTG's home? Bobert's bar and lounge? Trump Tower?

[NJCher]

29. any one of those

would be hell on earth.

Lunch at Bobo's rifle lounge could kill you!

[fightforfreedom]

10. Take the soldiers weapons, vehicles, and then march them back to Russia in disgrace.

Keep their officers as POWs.

[BlueIdaho]

15. One drink of water for one gun.

One crust of bread for one armored vehicle. Take them on the scenic route back to Russia - past all the communities they have destroyed.

[lagomorph777]

28. Make them put it back together, brick by brick.

[BlueIdaho]

39. Call it war reparations... nt.

[yagotme]

50. Been watching Bogey, huh?

Sahara movie.

[BlueIdaho]

59. Love me Bogey

[Gore1FL]

17. Via Belarus. nt

[Wingus Dingus]

24. No, they'll be rearmed and sent right back.

They have to be held somewhere until Russia withdraws.

[Duncanpup]

11. Russians will try to open up pocket

[machoneman]

21. Yep, that's the Uke's plan. A relief column rushing in to free them will get blasted to pieces.

[Duncanpup]

23. Absolutely

[sarisataka]

12. Twitter

What, exactly, are "realistic looking reports"?

A surrounded force is not necessarily a defeated force- see Bastogne and Chosin

[Kaleva]

22. The soldiers at Bastonge and Chosin were well trained, well led and highly motivated.

[obamanut2012]

43. These dudes are neither the Band of Brothers

Nor my 22-year-old grandfather, who had hunted from a young age and was an award-winning marksman, who also fought at Bastogne.

[PortTack]

14. It was just reported by another twitter source as well. Sorry can't find it now

[Donkees]

37. Here is another report I added to the thread:

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[honest.abe]

19. According to someone on twitter this represents 13 battalion tactical groups.

And there are approximately 600-800 (officers + soldiers) in a typical BTG.

So that would mean nearly 10,000 Russian military personnel surrounded.

This would be remarkable if true.

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[pandr32]

26. They should take prisoner all the officers and confiscate all arms

...and equipment (including phones) of the whole group of thousands leaving them with nothing but their bare hands. They can be left in a large group and supplies of mercy given them to survive until they can be relocated. Most of them are very young men.

[txwhitedove]

52. ...

[bif]

30. Send the POWs to Poland

The Polish people just love Russians!

[Donkees]

31. Another report:

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[NJCher]

32. Get them in front of tv and computer screens

Telling what they were told about their mission.

[ancianita]

33. Ukraine can trade Russian POW's for civilians taken to Russia. Could be a setup to continue Putin's

narrative of Ukraine as an aggressor nazi nation who he needs to protect Russians from.

Or Ukraine can use the captors' filmed statements and stories to beat Putin's.

[W_HAMILTON]

57. Taking civilians as hostages is a war crime.

I'd turn all the Russian POWs over to the Hague to be prosecuted for their war crimes.

[ancianita]

58. Fine. Okay, then. That's what they should do.

How to return the Mariupol people that have been disappeared into Russia should stay separate.

[left-of-center2012]

34. "unconfirmed but realistic looking reports"

Well then, it must be true !

[uponit7771]

55. People want it to be true, it'll be a big punch in Putrids mouth

[KS Toronado]

35. Come on Anonymous, get this information to the Russian people.

Wonder if mass surrenders will give Putler second thoughts about his invasion and withdraw,
or will he double down and send more troops into Ukraine?

[Picaro]

42. This is where it gets really dangerous...

This is the inflection point where Putin is most likely to use WMDs.

It has become clear that the numerically superior army with more air, missile, and artillery power has a logistics problem coupled with a morale issue that is insurmountable. If they keep fighting this kind of war they're going to lose.

Problem is Putin will most likely use chemical weapons first and then, if that doesn't work, tactical nukes.

If he does this he will rank with Hitler as the greatest war criminal since we've had the concept of war criminal.

I can't tell you what I think the U.S. and NATO response should be. We've never been here before. MAD may have failed at this point.

The question I can't answer is what leverage does the U.S. and NATO have the could keep him from escalating like this? Is he really crazy? Sure looks like it.

I'm very nervous. I hate what history is telling me is about to happen.

[uponit7771]

56. Nor RA troops are a sacrifice to keep UA busy up north while south RA forces

... secure Ukrainian fossil fuel reserves.

If those south forces get cut off that's when Putrid shows his nuclear teeth.

My 82nd chairborne analysis

[druidity33]

63. Unfortunately, I have similar fears. nt.

[NNadir]

45. Hopefully a Stalingrad redux.

[KS Toronado]

46. We should send these poor hungry Russian soldiers a soup truck.

Laced with something that would put them to sleep for a long time, or unable to walk & talk.

[NoMoreRepugs]

51. Having a NATO country house POW's and treat them humanely is an interesting thought.

Until they surrender they are enemy combatants and are to be treated as such. Seizing all those weapons and turning them on Russian troops is a delicious thought.

[Donkees]

60. ''Absolutely not ready to confirm if the Ukrainian military are really surrounding the Russian group

Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦
@IAPonomarenko
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Absolutely not ready to confirm if the Ukrainian military are really surrounding the Russian group in the Hostomel-Irpin-Bucha triangle.
But what is true is that there have been intense fighting several nights in a row, and Ukrainian units were very active cleaning out Irpin.

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[Donkees]

61. ''All weapons put down to rest. As of this minute. ''

Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦
@IAPonomarenko
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Unlike what we had last night, northwest of Kyiv is pretty quiet now.
All weapons put down to rest. As of this minute.
The night has just begun.

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[scipan]

62. Semi confirmation:

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[Donkees]

64. ''We shall likely know more about shifted position in the morning.''

Ukraine/Russia: Quiet northwest of Kyiv now tonight for the first real time all day after significant fighting and artillery fire. We shall likely know more about shifted position in the morning. Some sporadic small arms fire in the west.

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