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18181 votes. (Original Post) lonestarnot Oct 2012 OP
what does this mean? underthematrix Oct 2012 #1
This. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #3
So, let me get this straight. Indydem Oct 2012 #14
it only reflects how impervious they felt to being caught. A sociopathic joke, if you will. librechik Oct 2012 #25
It is the winning margin of votes Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #5
13013 is even better slackmaster Oct 2012 #2
So what you are teling me is that: Indydem Oct 2012 #4
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!! slackmaster Oct 2012 #6
So Eric Houlder is a party to vote fixing and the President must surely know this, right? Indydem Oct 2012 #8
Teh CONSPIRACY is SO VAST, SO PERVASIVE, that EVERYONE is part of it... slackmaster Oct 2012 #10
AM I A PART OF THE CONSPIRACY? Indydem Oct 2012 #11
80% of YOU is water, Indydem slackmaster Oct 2012 #12
THE WATER SUPPLY IS CORRUPTED TOO?? Indydem Oct 2012 #13
Have you ever heard of a thing called "fluoridation?" slackmaster Oct 2012 #16
I am telling you that all this poll bullshit is bullshit and they are going to attempt another cheat lonestarnot Oct 2012 #7
Interesting. So, in other words ~ "Nothing to see here! Move along now! The GOP would never commit Zorra Oct 2012 #18
Of course they are rigging the votes marions ghost Oct 2012 #20
2/11 x 100,000 IDemo Oct 2012 #9
So you're saying some 'genius' programmer made the cheating this obvious. randome Oct 2012 #15
Had you heard of this before the op? underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #23
Only the number posted in the 'other' thread about voting machine cheating. randome Oct 2012 #24
So in other words it's statistically not likely that this is 'obvious' to an overwhelming majority underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #26
It is more than likely that the Republicans are attempting, and in some cases succeeding, to ladjf Oct 2012 #17
As I look at the post... kentuck Oct 2012 #19
yea I remember that number. underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #21
Wonder what they are going to get away with due to the storm. lonestarnot Oct 2012 #27
+1, Thanks. Nt. Mc Mike Oct 2012 #22
 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
3. This.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:41 AM
Oct 2012

Republican Danny Scheel received 18,181 votes.
Texas Republican Carter Casteel received 18,181 votes.
Texas Republican Jeff Wentworth received 18, 181 votes.
Michigan Republican Candice Miler received 18,181 votes.
Maryland Republican Michael Smigiel received 18,181 votes.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
14. So, let me get this straight.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:01 PM
Oct 2012

The first three of those examples of this global conspiracy of evil are in the same county in Texas: why is it so OUTRAGEOUS that three people of the same party in the same county in Texas would win by the same number of votes? It isn't outrageous, it makes perfect sense. Same electorate, same margins. Moving on.

So now we actually have 3 instances where votes line up.

In 2002 (which is when this took place) there were probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 elections taking place across the country. Why is it so IMPOSSIBLE to believe that in 20,000 races across the country that there would be 3 voting groupings? I would bet, that if the same analysis were done for Democrats, you might find one, maybe 2 groupings, maybe even 3 or 4!!

Its statistically likely that this will happen when every race in the country is examined with a fine tooth comb for any kind of "pattern" to reinforce the idea that EVIL REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE VOTING MACHINES!

So, what you are telling me, in essence, is that computer programmers, hired by corporations who make voting machines, wrote a system into their tabulation software to add 18,181 votes to the winners of certain races? Not a random number to avoid detection - but the same number. And it only shows up in 5 races, nationwide?

Give me a fucking break.

librechik

(30,676 posts)
25. it only reflects how impervious they felt to being caught. A sociopathic joke, if you will.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:12 PM
Oct 2012

on us, as they counted their handsome payoffs. Oh, and surprise, nothing has happened about it, even though they threw it right in the judges faces. So they were right.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
5. It is the winning margin of votes
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:42 AM
Oct 2012

there were multiple cases of the same number of votes to win...and in most cases, there was also an undervote for the POTUS---in other words, in a very contentious race, people showed up to vote for their dogcatcher, but not the POTUS.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
4. So what you are teling me is that:
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:42 AM
Oct 2012

In ten years, the Democratic party, with all of their resources has been unable to prove the rigging of elections?

In four years, the Attorney General of the United States has sat around and done nothing? Because he's incompetent? Or does he not care?

OR is all this all just bullshit drummed up by angry people on the internet desperately looking for a reason why their candidates don't win sometimes?

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
6. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:44 AM
Oct 2012

Democratic Party leaders and the Attorney General are PART OF THE CONSPIRACY!

It's the ONLY possible explanation. MATHEMATICAL PROOF EXISTS!

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
8. So Eric Houlder is a party to vote fixing and the President must surely know this, right?
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:46 AM
Oct 2012

So essentially the entire system is corrupt, right?

Including the Democratic party which is apparently a party to this and lets this happen, why?

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
10. Teh CONSPIRACY is SO VAST, SO PERVASIVE, that EVERYONE is part of it...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:47 AM
Oct 2012

...and NOBODY knows it!

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
7. I am telling you that all this poll bullshit is bullshit and they are going to attempt another cheat
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 11:45 AM
Oct 2012

After a President is sworn in, what is the fucking remedy? Uninstall him/her?

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
18. Interesting. So, in other words ~ "Nothing to see here! Move along now! The GOP would never commit
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:04 PM
Oct 2012

election fraud!
You people are so silly.
Election fraud, how ridiculous!
Liberal conspiracy nuts, every one of you!
Stop questioning possible election fraud!"







marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
20. Of course they are rigging the votes
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:50 PM
Oct 2012

The Dem party knows but does not find it expedient to launch a large-scale effort on its own which would seem one-sided. They've done some things at state level which are making some difference, but not what we really need to fix a massive, systemic, national problem.

The Fed knows but does not allocate resources to it. Yes you could say they don't care.

And there are lots of people like you representing the forces that have NO interest in voting transparency. Those forces actively push against even reasonable reforms.

Why would anybody trust elections in America after what we have seen?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. So you're saying some 'genius' programmer made the cheating this obvious.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:12 PM
Oct 2012

If cheating was to be done, it would be by percentages, not by a specific number of votes.

This is nonsense. It's not to say that electronic voting machines cannot be rigged. Of course they can. But this is not evidence of it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
24. Only the number posted in the 'other' thread about voting machine cheating.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:08 PM
Oct 2012

Not sure what that has to do with anything. But my point stands -it's too consistent, which makes it, to my mind, a statistical coincidence, which happens all the time.

underseasurveyor

(6,428 posts)
26. So in other words it's statistically not likely that this is 'obvious' to an overwhelming majority
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:56 PM
Oct 2012

of American voters. Not many know of it including yourself, whether it's coincidence or in fact real cheating going on. So how's it going to be 'obvious?'

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
17. It is more than likely that the Republicans are attempting, and in some cases succeeding, to
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:40 PM
Oct 2012

miscount the votes. However, the assertion made by this post that there were multiple
instances of differentials of exactly the same number could not possible be the truth.
Republicans would not be that careless.

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