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TygrBright

(20,749 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 12:18 PM Mar 2022

Is this the socio-evolutionary challenge of the 21st Century?

I believe that if we (humankind) do not learn, relatively quickly, how to succeed as multi-cultural societies, we doom ourselves to the many deaths self-inflicted climate change has waiting for us.

We cannot effectively tackle climate change until we have learned to live in multicultural social units - nation-states, political subdivisions, even neighborhoods.

It's not about ideology per se - many ideologies can build reasonably successful societies in a monoculture. Monocultures tend to deal more easily with issues that challenge multicultural communities.

Yes, the Scandinavian countries led the world in quality of living for decades, but not necessarily because of their 'socialized' poltical system - they have always been pretty monocultural. Even recent migration patterns have not dented that too far, but those same recent migration patterns HAVE produced social frictions that challenge those nations.

Challenges that beset multicultural communities are also exacerbated in post-Colonial states where inter-cultural differences have been overlaid with a shared experience of inferiority to the colonial masters. Post-colonial states that understand the challenges and move quickly to institutionalize mechanisms that address inter-cultural differences have a better chance of long-term success in building their post-Colonial identity than those that deny the issue or address it by attempts at segregation, partition, or continuation of colonialist systems.

Multicultural societies (and eventually we will ALL be there - or dead) have to build infrastructures that ensure equity of value and access to resources, power, and influence for members of all cultural identities.

White people better understand this at a gut level sooner rather than later. Climate change is well and truly blind to human culture. It'll kill us all, indiscriminately, no matter how many wealthy white oligarchs manage to build funkholes for temporary survival.

certainly,
Bright

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Bernardo de La Paz

(48,924 posts)
1. Canada IS multi-cultural and has been for a long time by official policy
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 12:48 PM
Mar 2022

Now, of course you can find many counter-examples. Further, Canada is far from perfect. But consider

* Jagmeet Singh leads 3rd biggest party, now in pact with Liberals over pharmacare, dental care, and budgets.

* Defense Minister now is a woman, previously was another turban wearing Sikh.

* Two official languages, services widely available in both.

* Serious efforts to make amends to indigenous people, such as including their arts and music in multiple events.

* Governor-General, technically top government official in Canada (an anachronism) is an Inuit indigenous woman.

* Ukrainian culture thrives in Manitoba and the west. Part of the reason 200 (500?) Canadian Armed Forces were in Ukraine training Ukrainian armed forces.

I could go on.

See, it can be done and made to work well.

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Celerity

(43,039 posts)
3. If you think Sweden is still a monoculture, I highly suspect you are in possession
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 01:22 PM
Mar 2022

of faulty data. We are by far the most diverse Nordic nation now, have been for decades. We have a higher percentage of 1st and 2nd generation, non native born people than the US has, the vast majority of which are non white, and/or non western European.

If the US had taken in the population-adjusted amount of refugees Sweden has in the last 25 years or so, the US would have taken in over 50 million refugees (NOT includeling all immigrants, I mean just in refugees). The majority of those here via the refugee do not want to be here, have little tradition with pluralistic democracy, and very little desire to integrate.

Hopefully that changes with the next large generation, or else the socioeconomic, sociocultural cleavages and the resultant backlash may well become so great thar I fear a RW, reactionary coalition may take over the Riksdag (our parliament).

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