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Yorkie Mom

(16,420 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:13 PM Mar 2022

Putin Admits His Attack on Ukraine is a Holy War (Says quite part out loud)

Putin Admits His Attack on Ukraine is a Holy War

It’s always helpful when the Kremlin says the quiet part out loud from the very top

John Schindler

This newsletter has repeatedly pointed out that Russia’s aggressive war against its neighbor, which is about to enter its second month, has a distinctly religious character, even if few Western analysts have noticed it. Indeed, that the Kremlin’s campaign to subdue Ukraine, returning it to Moscow’s control, plainly resembles a holy war is something that’s stated openly by the very top of the Russian Orthodox Church, which views the Ukraine war as nothing less than a struggle for the fate – and soul – of mankind itself.

Now we can add the comments of President Vladimir Putin himself to the case for Ukraine-as-Russia’s-holy-war. Last Thursday, Putin, who is widely reported to be infuriated by the slow progress of his plodding and costly war against Kyiv, delivered an angry nighttime speech in which he castigated his enemies, including “national traitors” and “scum” plus the supposed “fifth column” plotting Russia’s defeat. He added that the country needed “self-detoxification” from such disloyal elements, including “people who can’t live without foie gras, oysters or what they call ‘gender freedom’.” Unable to conceal his rage, Putin ominously added that such traitors “belong to a higher caste, to a higher race. Such people are ready to sell their own mother if only they are allowed to sit in the hallway of this very highest caste.” The Kremlin boss went further, stating that “their goal is to destroy Russia” with Western help, but Russia was nevertheless winning:

Any nation, and even more so the Russian people, will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and will simply spit them out like an insect in their mouth, spit them onto the pavement.

The petulantly fascistic tenor of that speech was widely noted outside Russia, but Putin outdid himself the very next day at a rally to commemorate the eighth anniversary of Moscow’s theft of Crimea from Ukraine. The celebratory event, held at Luzhniki Stadium in southwest Moscow, featured large crowds waving Russian flags. Exactly how many were in attendance is unclear, amid rumors that some of the “patriotic crowds” were in fact government employees required to show up; then there was an odd technical glitch while Putin spoke. None of that should distract from the Russia’s leader’s comments, however, which merit our attention.

More: https://topsecretumbra.substack.com/p/putin-admits-his-attack-on-ukraine?s=w

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Putin Admits His Attack on Ukraine is a Holy War (Says quite part out loud) (Original Post) Yorkie Mom Mar 2022 OP
Putin invaded Ukraine on Lord Nelson's birthday. Yorkie Mom Mar 2022 #1
Holy war? ..... Lovie777 Mar 2022 #2
Putin has always cozied up to the Russian Orthodox Church TheProle Mar 2022 #3
. ItsjustMe Mar 2022 #4
A few years ago, the main branch of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church severed ties from... Tommy Carcetti Mar 2022 #5
Yep, and Russia has always considered Kyiv the spiritual home of Russian Orthodoxy... regnaD kciN Mar 2022 #6
Holy war is the oxymoron for morons. Doodley Mar 2022 #7

Yorkie Mom

(16,420 posts)
1. Putin invaded Ukraine on Lord Nelson's birthday.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:14 PM
Mar 2022




Only in Russia does your winningest admiral, your Lord Nelson, retire from the navy to become an Orthodox monk (and later, saint).

Putin invaded Ukraine on his birthday. Totes normal. This war is totally about NATO expansion or something.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
5. A few years ago, the main branch of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church severed ties from...
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:20 PM
Mar 2022

...the Moscow Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church.

So I'm sure they're rather bitter about that fact.

Interesting enough, the Russian Orthodox Church still controls several holy sites in Ukraine, most notably the Kyiv Pechersk Lavra monastery. I have to wonder if it will be spared the same damage inflicted on the rest of the city of Kyiv.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. Yep, and Russia has always considered Kyiv the spiritual home of Russian Orthodoxy...
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 06:08 PM
Mar 2022

...so much so that, in the initial invasion, Putin described part of his mission as "to heal the gaping wound in Orthodoxy" (i.e. make sure that Ukraine is returned to the jurisdiction of the Patriarch of Moscow).

Ironically, this split began after the 2014 invasion, which caused the majority of the Ukrainian Orthodox to request "autocephalous" status (being recognized as a separate national church). The Patriarch of Constantinople, who, while not equivalent to a Pope, is considered to be "first among equals" and the main spiritual authority in Orthodoxy, granted them that status in 2018, whereupon the Patriarch of Moscow took the unprecedented step of excommunicating him. So, strictly speaking, it's the Russian church that's in schism, and the true "gaping wound in Orthodoxy" is Russia rebelling and splitting off from the rest of the Eastern Orthodox churches, virtually all of whom (with the possible exception of Serbia, which is predictably straddling the fence) side with Constantinople.

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