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applegrove

(118,642 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:28 PM Mar 2022

Biden's Approval Drops to New Low

Biden’s Approval Drops to New Low

March 22, 2022 at 4:53 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 7 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/22/bidens-approval-drops-to-new-low-2/

"SNIP.......

President Biden’s public approval rating fell to a new low of 40% this week, a clear warning sign for his Democratic Party as it seeks to retain control of Congress in the Nov. 8 election, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll.

......SNIP"

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Biden's Approval Drops to New Low (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2022 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #1
If I had the ear of the President... and I don't WarGamer Mar 2022 #2
And run on lowering drug prices. applegrove Mar 2022 #4
This XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #5
Response: you controlled the Congress for 2 years, and you didn't pass this. brooklynite Mar 2022 #8
I am disappointed XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #11
Yes and they should be ashamed for NOT bringing it up for a vote. WarGamer Mar 2022 #12
Yes indeed nt XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #19
You don't control Congress under the current rules Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #36
Which is a subtlety the average voter doesn't understand. brooklynite Mar 2022 #37
Also eliminate that Medicare premium increase for an Alzheimer's Elwood P Dowd Mar 2022 #9
that, too. WarGamer Mar 2022 #14
Similar proposal has been out there to make min SS federal poverty level bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #16
Good one! "We solve problems they create them." n/t Peregrine Took Mar 2022 #22
He actually ran on fixing Social Security for low income workers in 2020. Seems to have been dropped PoliticAverse Mar 2022 #31
I noticed that... thanks. WarGamer Mar 2022 #32
I just checked and the plan is still up on the Biden website PoliticAverse Mar 2022 #38
Good but don't like the 30 year stipulation. WarGamer Mar 2022 #40
Absolutely. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #39
That's not going to do anything . JI7 Mar 2022 #51
Besides increasing benefits for all and making mvd Mar 2022 #52
Aggregate, for reference: TheProle Mar 2022 #3
Thanks. applegrove Mar 2022 #6
graph Celerity Mar 2022 #50
Corporate media responds: "Mission accomplished." yardwork Mar 2022 #7
Inflation is killing us. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #10
No corned beef this Saint P day XanaDUer2 Mar 2022 #13
You are not kidding. cinematicdiversions Mar 2022 #17
I don't want to sound like "old guy"... WarGamer Mar 2022 #21
I remember those days. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #28
Some time around 2013... WarGamer Mar 2022 #29
I don't eat much meat myself, only rarely, but I do the same for my dogs. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #33
I'd love to live somewhere that I could keep hens... WarGamer Mar 2022 #20
I've never put one in the pot. They can grow old comfortably lol. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #30
awesome... WarGamer Mar 2022 #34
How in the hell does that kill us but not Putrids Concubine? Somethings wrong, Putrids Concubine uponit7771 Mar 2022 #25
Well, I remember his poll numbers dropping quite a bit. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author old as dirt Mar 2022 #49
Fuck that stupid shit .... Joe Biden and his team are doing the best job I have ever seen. Botany Mar 2022 #15
Gas and inflation are all America thinks about. bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #18
Exactly genxlib Mar 2022 #23
JFC. 🙄 Polling 1000 people! ?? 400 Dems/300 Repubs Budi Mar 2022 #24
This is pretty silly stuff right here. tritsofme Mar 2022 #42
Wrong. I'd be looking at that 1000 # & wondering what the other 100 million had to say. Budi Mar 2022 #43
Your criticism is ridiculous. That is a standard sample size for an opinion poll. tritsofme Mar 2022 #44
1000 online, English speaking only, out of 100/200 million is ridiculous Budi Mar 2022 #45
There is absolutely nothing wrong with how this poll was conducted. tritsofme Mar 2022 #46
I am attacking the pollster. The halfassed method used to make a headline like this one. Budi Mar 2022 #47
40% is a "clear warning sign" for Democrats gratuitous Mar 2022 #26
Trump was never in the low 30's, let alone 'for practically his entire term in office' Celerity Mar 2022 #53
People are so fucking stupid. Native Mar 2022 #27
Big money controls the prices and the message. Chainfire Mar 2022 #41
I really want to know who they are polling. I've just given up on polls. Biophilic Mar 2022 #48

Response to applegrove (Original post)

WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
2. If I had the ear of the President... and I don't
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:31 PM
Mar 2022

I'd suggest running in 2022 on reforming Social Security, particularly how to help lower income people who have minimal SS credits because of raising children, caring for others or just a career of low wages.

Say "No retiree in the US will receive less than $1200/mo and EVERY retiree will receive an annual benefits increase."

brooklynite

(94,535 posts)
37. Which is a subtlety the average voter doesn't understand.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 06:21 PM
Mar 2022

And if they did, how would you claim to be able to get 60 votes in the next Congress

bucolic_frolic

(43,156 posts)
16. Similar proposal has been out there to make min SS federal poverty level
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:39 PM
Mar 2022

His new SS chief has only been on the job about 4 months I think. So maybe in the works. It is the type of thing to run re-election on. But we have to keep a House of Congress or we are in trouble in 2023.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
31. He actually ran on fixing Social Security for low income workers in 2020. Seems to have been dropped
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:55 PM
Mar 2022

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
38. I just checked and the plan is still up on the Biden website
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 06:29 PM
Mar 2022
https://joebiden.com/older-americans/

III. PRESERVE AND STRENGTHEN SOCIAL SECURITY

Social Security is the bedrock of American retirement. Roughly 90% of retirement-age Americans receive Social Security benefits, and one-in-four rely on Social Security for all, or almost all, of their income. The program has not only ensured that middle-class workers can enjoy the sound and secure retirement they worked so hard for, it also lifted over 17 million older Americans out of poverty in 2017 alone.

The Biden Plan will protect Social Security for the millions of Americans who depend on the program. With Social Security’s Trust Fund already in deficit and expected to be exhausted in 2035, we urgently need action to make the program solvent and prevent cuts to American retirees.

But the Biden Plan doesn’t stop there. As president, Joe Biden will strengthen benefits for the most vulnerable older Americans – including widows and widowers, lifelong workers with low monthly benefits, and old-age beneficiaries who may have exhausted their other savings. Specifically, the Biden Plan will:

Put Social Security on a path to long-run solvency. The impending exhaustion of the Social Security Trust fund imperils American retirement as we know it. Waiting to act only jeopardizes the program further, and will make an eventual solution that much more difficult. The Biden Plan will put the program on a path to long-term solvency by asking Americans with especially high wages to pay the same taxes on those earnings that middle-class families pay.

Preserve the nature of Social Security. Social Security is one of our nation’s great public policy successes, in large part due to the fact that participation in the program is shared across almost all workers. Efforts to privatize the program – such as an approach suggested under the Bush Administration – will undermine the program’s solvency, while putting at risk individuals’ income in retirement. Similarly, proposals to make the program “means-tested” – so that only low-income retirees workers receive benefits – jeopardizes the program’s universal nature and key role as the bedrock of American retirement. Ultimately, the success of Social Security is largely due to the fact that almost all Americans can rely on the program to make their retirement more secure.

Provide a higher benefit for the oldest Americans. At advanced ages, Americans become more vulnerable to exhausting their savings, sometimes falling into poverty and living a life of hardship. The Biden Plan will provide the oldest beneficiaries – those who have been receiving retirement benefits for at least 20 years – with a higher monthly check to help protect retirees from the pain of dwindling retirement savings.

Implement a true minimum benefit for lifelong workers. No one who has worked for decades and paid into Social Security should have to spend their retirement in poverty. The Biden Plan will revolutionize the Social Security’s minimum benefit, which has deteriorated over time to the point of being entirely ineffective. Under the Biden Plan, workers who spent 30 years working will get a benefit of at least 125% of the poverty level.

Protect widows and widowers from steep cuts in benefits. For many couples, the death of a spouse means that Social Security benefits will be cut in half – putting pressure on the surviving spouse who still needs to make the mortgage payment and handle other bills. The Biden Plan will allow surviving spouse to keep a higher share of the benefits. This will make an appreciable difference in the finances of older Americans, especially women (who live longer on average than men), raising the monthly payment by about 20% for affected beneficiaries.

Eliminate penalties for teachers and other public-sector workers. Current rules penalize teachers and other public sector workers who either switch jobs or who have earned retirement benefits from various sources. The Biden Plan would eliminate these penalties by ensuring that teachers not eligible for Social Security will begin receiving benefits sooner – rather than the current ten-year period for many teachers. The Biden Plan will also get rid of the benefit cuts for workers and surviving beneficiaries who happen to be covered by both Social Security and another pension. These workers deserve the benefits they earned.

WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
40. Good but don't like the 30 year stipulation.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 06:33 PM
Mar 2022

I know people who have worked a few years, then taken care of kids for 10-15 years... then worked another 10-15 years and then stepped into being a caregiver for aging parents into their 60's.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
52. Besides increasing benefits for all and making
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 01:42 AM
Mar 2022

the wealthy pay in more, another thing should be addressed - all the 5 week wait months. They are hard on people like my mom who rely on SS for their whole income.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
10. Inflation is killing us.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:36 PM
Mar 2022

I’m lucky that I really don’t have to worry about finances, but I was just blown away at the store the other day. Pet food has jumped up alarmingly, among other things. I don’t eat a lot, but my grocery bill has cereal increased.

I’m glad my feathered ladies give me eggs every day. 🐓

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
17. You are not kidding.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:40 PM
Mar 2022

I am hardly pay check to paycheck but a stop into Publix to pick up some luncheon meet and salad fixings shouldn't be over $50.

WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
21. I don't want to sound like "old guy"...
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:43 PM
Mar 2022

Last edited Tue Mar 22, 2022, 06:34 PM - Edit history (1)

But in the mid 90's I used to go to the grocery store and if the shopping cart was FULL... (full size cart)


Then it'd be a 50/50 chance to break $100

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
28. I remember those days.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:52 PM
Mar 2022

I really paid attention the other day as I shopped, and I was shocked at the prices.

I did get a pineapple for $1.99, and I considered that a bargain!

WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
29. Some time around 2013...
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:55 PM
Mar 2022

We had a dog with allergies and it was eating a raw food diet.

The base meat for the formulation was ground beef. I'd wait until ground beef was on sale for 99 cents a pound then I'd buy all they had and freeze it.

I haven't seen ground beef for less than 3.99 in a long time.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
33. I don't eat much meat myself, only rarely, but I do the same for my dogs.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:57 PM
Mar 2022

I look for marked down steaks, and sometimes get some good deals.

Dogs are spoiled as hell.

WarGamer

(12,440 posts)
20. I'd love to live somewhere that I could keep hens...
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:41 PM
Mar 2022

But then someone told me that they have a short egg-laying life and then they end up in the pot...

Of course, I wouldn't do that and would just let them run around and be chickens even as they aged lol.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
30. I've never put one in the pot. They can grow old comfortably lol.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:55 PM
Mar 2022

I wont even eat chicken because I’ve gotten so attached to mine.

My oldest is about five, still laying. One of the younger ones sometimes lays double yolkers, which is always a nice surprise.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
25. How in the hell does that kill us but not Putrids Concubine? Somethings wrong, Putrids Concubine
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:46 PM
Mar 2022

... literally fucked up the whole economy worse than the great depression in shorter time by lying about the virus and his poll numbers didn't go down like that.

I'm thinking there ... HAS ... to be some revolt on the dem side for this seeing MAGA was never going to vote for Biden in the first place.

I'm thinking what the hell is it !?!

Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #10)

Botany

(70,503 posts)
15. Fuck that stupid shit .... Joe Biden and his team are doing the best job I have ever seen.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:39 PM
Mar 2022

This is GOP/corporate media crap.

genxlib

(5,526 posts)
23. Exactly
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:45 PM
Mar 2022

The old expression of "its the economy stupid" is really too broad. It is more specific than that. It all boils down to the personal economic experience. And the personal economic experience is bad right now.

All those patriots who talk about willing to do anything to support freedom are mostly full of it. When push comes to shove, they are still unhappy about the least possible sacrifice.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
24. JFC. 🙄 Polling 1000 people! ?? 400 Dems/300 Repubs
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:45 PM
Mar 2022
The Reuters/Ipsos poll is conducted online in English throughout the United States. The latest poll gathered responses from a total of 1,005 adults, including 432 Democrats and 366 Republicans. It has a credibility interval - a measure of precision - of 4 percentage points.

Toss this "poll" in the trash & hand it over to someone more precise, & professional.

"Online at which sites?
Why only English speaking?
1,005 adults, including 432 Democrats and 366 Republicans


Did they select one city in America?
One State?
Did they run this poll online at MSM? FOX?

I could have run this poll & for 1/4th what this bullshit thing cost to fund.
Btw, Who paid for this Poll?

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
42. This is pretty silly stuff right here.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 06:40 PM
Mar 2022

Reuters/Ipsos isn’t some crooked right wing outfit.

I’m sure you wouldn’t be attacking the pollster if the result was more to your liking.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
43. Wrong. I'd be looking at that 1000 # & wondering what the other 100 million had to say.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 06:48 PM
Mar 2022

This miserable excuse for a professional polling org, is what drove that headline.

Without knowing the aggregate of how, where & why, they ran such a particular poll & passed that data off as headline worthy is pretty shabby.
They should be embarrassed.

It tells us absolutely nothing we couldn't have found on Fox, MSM or NY Times & their stepchild, Politico.

Its not worthy of a headline.
Its says nothing.
1000 English speaking people, online, out of 100/200 million adults in the US.


 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
45. 1000 online, English speaking only, out of 100/200 million is ridiculous
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 06:56 PM
Mar 2022

Where are the aggregates to this top notch professional polling organization? They certainly must have the entire data before them. Where online was this poll? How were the polling questions worded?



tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
46. There is absolutely nothing wrong with how this poll was conducted.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 07:09 PM
Mar 2022

I don’t like the result either, if it makes you feel better to attack the pollster…🤷

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
47. I am attacking the pollster. The halfassed method used to make a headline like this one.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 07:21 PM
Mar 2022

I have questioned nothing here but the methods of the pollster.

And IPSOS is supposed to be one we are to rely on??
Jfc.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
26. 40% is a "clear warning sign" for Democrats
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:49 PM
Mar 2022

The former guy hovered in the low 30s for practically his entire term in office and the media could never quite bring themselves to say that his re-election was in trouble. In fact, when the wholly-predictable returns came in for 2020, they still couldn't quite bring themselves to say that the people had spoken loudly and clearly. Instead, they went haring off after one preposterous story after another peddled by the former guy and his cadre of apparatchiks.

Forgive me if I don't swoon.

Celerity

(43,349 posts)
53. Trump was never in the low 30's, let alone 'for practically his entire term in office'
Wed Mar 23, 2022, 02:16 AM
Mar 2022

37.1% approval was his lowest ever on aggregate, December 16, 2017

He was at 45.9% approval on election day, Nov 03, 2020

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html





If just 21,461 votes (split between just 3 states, GA, WI, and AZ) had flipped from Biden to Trump, Trump would still be POTUS as that would leave it 269-269, and the House would have elected Trump, as they had control of 26 state delegations, the exact number need to win

The only real shot we had to kick them under 26 was FL (WI is too gerrymandered, and the 3 tied states would not have helped, as the Rethugs already did not have control of any) and we lost ground in FL, in terms of number of seats held. We went from being one down, 13 D to 14 R, to being 5 down, 11 D, 16 R.





Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
41. Big money controls the prices and the message.
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 06:38 PM
Mar 2022

Raise prices, blame it on the President, then you can put the puppet that will do your bidding back in. I suspect by the midterms there will be another crisis to jack everything up again. It is a double win for big business and big money, they get to scalp us and make sure that they continue to rule.

We have probably passed the point that the people can regain control of the country. Erase your hard drive and polish you jackboots.
The bad guys won.

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