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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/knewz-exclusive-paul-manafort-denied-flight-to-dubai-over-revoked-passport/ar-AAVnzeR?ocid=msedgntpManafort was convicted in federal court of tax and bank fraud and ordered to serve a term in prison. He was released in May 2020 and pardoned by Trump before he left office in December 2020.
Officials with Miami-Dade police confirmed to Knewz.com that Manafort was denied travel by the Customs and Bureau Protection at Miami International Airport. Police said he could not take the flight and his U.S. Passport was revoked.
Miami-Dade police stressed they were not involved in the situation and there was no further incident from his removal.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,110 posts)"New court documents from Manafort's bail hearing go on to note that the man has developed a curious habit of gaining and losing tens of millions of dollars when stating his net worth, depending on which loan application he happened to be filling out at that particular moment. In August of last yearwhile he was serving as Trump's campaign managerManafort variously listed his assets at $63 million and $28 million, both of which are down considerably from the $136 million figure he had floated less than six months earlier. His still-unverified assertions don't prove anything by themselves, of course, but they are almost certainly causing the lawyers tasked with defending him against allegations of financial crime to develop a considerable collective headache."
How many thousands do this same maneuver?
https://www.gq.com/story/paul-manafort-embarrassing-dad
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,994 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Just like Trump.
One thing I know, you have to be a sleazy liar like Mike DeWine to be a Republican. The Ohio State House is so full of corruption I have to wonder how Mike faces his 8 children.
no_hypocrisy
(46,080 posts)He had no passport.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)He obviously HAS a passport.
It has been revoked. In other words, the passport which he physically possesses is not valid.
That would not be known to airline staff.
However, when you travel internationally, youll notice that the airline tries to get your passport number as early in the process as they can. That is because the information - the passport numbers, etc. - is then electronically provided to CBP.
Obviously, he put off giving them the data as long as he could and as close to the flight take off as he could, so they wouldnt catch it in time.
He nearly succeeded.
TLDR - the airline staff can see that you have a passport. The have no way of knowing it is valid.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Something is up.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)There's no reason for his passport to remain revoked from his prior pardoned conviction unless it was an administrative oversight of some kind (or unless he needed to re-apply).
Mike Nelson
(9,951 posts)... I know the rules about passports... but, as long as Paul Manifort wants to LEAVE the USA, I thing we should bend them. It's his RETURN that we should make a problem!
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)This is from the linked article:
If Manafort was trying to get on an international flight, he would have had to present his passport at the TSA checkpoint and then again at the gate. Otherwise, he would have been turned away.
What's surprising to me is that Manafort still had a passport. I guess he got to keep it after Trump (illegally) pardoned him.
I'm glad Manafort spent some time in prison. He's lost much of his wealth and his behavior has fractured his family. All he probably has left is the money he's hidden overseas so I'm glad the authorities are keeping him in the U.S.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)CBP gets an electronic manifest from the airline, and the fact that his passport is invalid popped up, barely in time.
The passport was not valid, but he still had the physical item.
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)He would have had to present his passport at check-in. In which case he shouldn't have been issued a boarding pass to get on the plane.
TSA only requires some form of Government ID AND a valid boarding pass.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-03-23/trump-adviser-manafort-removed-from-plane-for-revoked-passport
Former Trump advisor Paul Manafort was removed from a plane at Miami International Airport before it took off for Dubai because he carried a revoked passport, officials said Wednesday.
brooklynite
(94,502 posts)When you check in for your international flights, you passport is swiped into the terminal. Should have popped up as revoked, the same way a name would pop up from the no-fly list.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)That swipe captures the data from the Passport. That's why the front page has the printing formatted that way.
All that is happening with that swipe is that the airline is capturing the data. They have NO IDEA whether that passport might be revoked.
Then, they take that data, put it into the electronic manifest that is provided to CBP. After the data is provided to CBP, they have access to systems that can check the validity of the data.
The no-fly list works differently and doesn't run on passport numbers since, obviously, that would make zero sense given that a passport is not required for domestic air travel anyway. Your name was run against the no-fly list before you were issued your boarding pass.
It's like saying that the bar checks your driver's license on the way in. Yeah, sure, you have a license and it has a birthdate. Whether the state will let you drive a car with it is not their problem.
The airline has a duty to collect the data and provide it to CBP. The airline also wants to avoid fines and costs at the other end of having delivered you somewhere you can't enter and having to fly your ass back. But, no, airlines cannot determine the validity of a passport.
I encountered this type of misunderstanding in consulting work for a company that processes a lot of personal data. A government regulator had wanted to know why the company didn't require government ID like driver's licenses, etc.. The simple answer is that a private company has no way of validating a driver's license with any of the zillion jurisdictions that might issue one.
I'm betting that Manafort simply didn't get a new passport after his old one was revoked, and didn't realize he had to. Having been pardoned of the crimes of which he was convicted, there is no legal bar to his getting one. Also, if it had been revoked after the pardon, he would know that, since there aren't "secret passport revocations".
maxrandb
(15,320 posts)Mariupal.
He should spend the rest of his miserable life seeing what he and Donnie Dipshit unleashed on Ukraine.
Every last one of those fucksticks...Manafort, Rudy, Donnie Dipshit, Barr, Flynn, Stone and EVERY GOP SENATOR THAT VOTED TO ACQUIT should be given a one-way ticket.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Air-drop him on the city.
No parachute.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)He apparently got wind of something and tried to flee. But thank goodness sharp eyes were on the job. I think he's Manafucked now. If DOJ is looking at him again, they are quite possibly looking at Trump. I hope.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)A lot of the lesser fish do not equal the big, fat flounder.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Larissa
(790 posts)From Occupy Dems tweet:
"BREAKING: Officials announce that they pulled ex-Trump campaign Chairman Paul Manafort from a plane and revoked his passport as he tried to flee to Dubai after the US Senate declared him a grave national security threat over his Russian ties." Manafort must have been in a hell of a hurry to leave the wife behind *and* his ostrich jacket.
I would have thought that Vlad would have given Manafort TFG's old room at the Kremlin.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Thanks!!
Wednesdays
(17,342 posts)He needs to be detained. Else he'll try to flee again, and succeed. He's still got friends in high places to help him out.
Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)He's on the run from the law?
Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)czarjak
(11,266 posts)kentuck
(111,079 posts)Does he know someone there?
Was he carrying a message for someone there?
Was it just a stopover on his way to Russia?
It's a mystery.