Wyoming makes it illegal for state officials to enforce "unconstitutional" federal gun laws.

[AndyS]

Wyoming makes it illegal for state officials to enforce “unconstitutional” federal gun laws.Legal text here.
On March 21 Governor Mark Gordon signed the bill into law. The bill prohibits local law enforcement from enforcing Federal gun laws with a provision for fines up to $2000, jail time or both.

Wyoming's law closely imitates Missouri's "second amendment sanctuary" law. A number of states have such laws but both Wyoming's and Missouri's stand out in that they actually fine or imprison any state or local law enforcement officer for enforcing Federal law.

Law enforcement in Missouri is complaining that it has been locked out of Federal tools that aid in pursuing criminal investigations. It's funny how 'tough on crime' Republicans are perfectly happy to prevent law enforcement from being 'tough on crime' at the behest of the Gun Lobby. Surely it must be the Gun Lobby they're listening to because the vast majority of citizens want more gun regulation, not less (last look 9% of voters wanted less regulation and almost half wanted more).

These "Second Amendment Sanctuaries" are pure posturing in most cases as they have no effect on day to day law enforcement. No state or local law enforcement can be forced to enforce federal law unless federal funding to pay for it is provided but they are free to use any assistance available. For the most part they are nothing but a big dick display to satisfy the Gun Culture. However the actual prevention of such enforcement is unconstitutional under the Federal Supremacy clause in Article VI paragraph 2. The DOJ is currently suing Missouri under Article VI and I assume will soon include Wyoming in the suit.

Isn't it ironic that those who swear they will defend the Constitution at all costs ignore it when it is the least bit inconvenient?

A recent poll revealed that people think 54% of Americans own guns. The real number is 32%. The power of guns and the gun vultures is far exaggerated. There is no reason for this other than $$ spent by those who make a living off death and misery. Remington recently admitted (by settling the Sandy Hook lawsuit and turning over closely guarded marketing documents) that they prey on weak young men. Mexico is suing several gun makers for marketing their guns to drug cartels in that country AND allowing mass trafficking of guns across the border. They are not invincible.

Stand up, take part and fight back. $ make a difference. Consider you Humanity card reissued.

Note to gunners:
Yes, the Remington settlement was an admission by the insurers that they could not disprove the guilt of the defendant and they were willing to pay $73 million to stop trying. Anyone with two functioning brain cells knows that. Should you choose to weigh in with the less than 2 functioning brain cell group, please proceed . . .

[doc03]

1. Duh if they were unconstitutional they wouldn't

be Federal gun laws. Loo

[former9thward]

4. Congress passes laws that might be ruled unconstitutional later on.

Someone who is affected by the law challenges it and it gets to the Supreme Court where they may rule it violates the Constitution.

[SYFROYH]

2. You're right, its mostly posturing.

But as you say, state and local authorities can't be forced to aid in federal operations, but these laws don't advocate for preventing enforcement by Federal agencies. The feds just have to work a little harder on their own -- much like with cannabis enforcement.

There are some federal gun laws that I'd like to see changed, but most are good laws.

[Runningdawg]

3. OK doesn't need such a law. Cops only enforce the gun laws THEY decide to enforce.

Billy Bob who everyone in the one-horse town knows can't legally own a weapon, carries one on his hip and has coffee with the local deputy down at the doughnut shop every morning.

[former9thward]

5. The "real number is 32%"

Where are you getting this "real" number?

[AndyS]

6. There are numerous surveys and polls that all yield almost identical results.

Here's one from Gallop:

[former9thward]

7. LOL

You mocked another poll you didn't like in the OP but then turn around and offer a poll you like. And even that poll says 44% of people live in a household with a gun. The fact is most people who own a gun are not going to tell an stranger calling them up on the phone that they have a gun. If someone called you and asked how much money you have laying around your house would you tell the truth?

[maxsolomon]

8. Is this poll OK? It's 5 years old.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2017/06/22/the-demographics-of-gun-ownership/

[former9thward]

11. I not going to click it because it doesn't matter what it shows.

Gun owners are not going to tell strangers on a phone that they have a gun in the house. Who would do that? Next someone will say they will tell strangers on a phone where their safe is. incredible that anyone would believe this.

[maxsolomon]

18. That's your opinion, though.

We need a survey to see if Gunners would answer a survey about Gun Ownership.

[Dial H For Hero]

9. If someone I don't know calls me on the phone and asks me if there are guns in my home,

there is no way I’m going to say “yes”.

[AndyS]

12. Then find some other reliable numbers. I try not to deal in wishful thinking

although that seems to be the accepted methodology for measuring DGUs.

[Dial H For Hero]

15. There is no doubt that 30% to 35% of adults freely admit to owning firearms when polled.

I speculate, however, that the actual number is somewhat higher than this, due to the reluctance some will have to admitting this when polled by a total stranger (for various reasons). This speculation cannot be backed up, but I think it is reasonable.

[AndyS]

20. I speculate that most male gun owners have a tiny penis and most

female gun owners suffer from penis envy. This speculation cannot be backed up, but I think it is reasonable and I know it carries as much weight as your speculation.

[AndyS]

10. LOL right back atcha.

You don't think that gun owners will admit to owning one but so many of your ilk will freely accept that millions of people use guns for defense every year because somebody asked them if they did?

If you don't like that poll, try PEW, Rand or any other reputable survey.

What other poll are you speaking of? You referring to this OP or some other?

[former9thward]

13. You mocked a poll which said Americans thought 52% owned guns.

Didn't you read your own OP? Polls are apparently only "reputable" when they offer up something you like.

I am doing a poll on where people keep cash in their house. How about you? How much and where do you keep it? And what is your address and SS #? You won't answer those questions but you think someone is going to tell strangers about guns in their house. Incredible.

[AndyS]

14. I didn't mock anything. Simply quoted accurately what people THNK about gun ownership

compared to the reliable polling.

I quote polls and statistics and you and others tell me what you THINK. Your thoughts and $2 will get you a beer at happy hour. If you wish to argue that there are more gun owners than the 30-35% reported over the last few decades show me some numbers.

[former9thward]

21. There are no numbers because there is no gun registration.

ATF records of background checks are destroyed after the check. So if it makes you feel good then just say all guns are owned by one person. It means the same thing.

[AndyS]

22. THERE ARE NUMBERS!! I posted them and the sources for them! For decades the number of

gun owners has been 30-35% of the population (down from near 51% back in 1978 it think). That the % hasn't changed dramatically over a those decades of surveys lends continuity and credibility to the statistic.

I find it endlessly ironic that after 40 years of having gunners demand hard cold facts to support any comment on gun regulation they find it so easy to demand that I simply TAKE THEIR WORD for their point of view. Hell this sub-thread began with you asking where I got the 32%! I told you, you dismissed it and then have the almighty nerve to ask me to simply accept that decades of surveys are wrong BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY ARE?

If we are going to take what you think on equal terms with scientific surveys and polling then I ask you to accept what I think with equal validity. I think gunners all suffer from ED, have tiny dicks and have Oedipus complex.

[LiberalFighter]

16. They need to lose federal funding.

[LiberalFighter]

17. Aren't all Wyoming laws unconstitutional?

[CrackityJones75]

19. Time to start yanking federal funding.