Thnking back to 2018 and the incredibly odd image of the power dynamic between . . . .

[Stinky The Clown]

. . . . a swaggering, smirking Vladimir Putin and the slinking, whipped puppy demeanor of America's twice-impeached president.

To the best of my knowledge, no one apart from the principals and a few Russian aides, know what happened in their encounter in Helsinki.

We, along with much of the world, could not help but think the Florida retiree got his ass kicked. Repeatedly. The notion that he was threatened also seemed a reasonable inference.

But so far as I know, we don't know.

Has anyone heard anything more about this? Facts would be nice. In the absence of same, anything else?

[empedocles]

1. So ugly

[PatSeg]

2. After seeing Trump's image nonstop on TV

for years, I am still amazed at how ugly he is. Ugly and very weak.

[Walleye]

3. Maybe Putin threatened to assassinate Trump. He's such a coward

[lagomorph777]

4. Not a good day at Mar A Guano. Trump/Putin's pal Manafort just got pulled from a plane in Miami.

Manafort is the key to the whole Ukraine plot; Ukraine is the whole reason Putin installed Trump.

[Stinky The Clown]

6. That nexus was part of the inspiration for this thread

The trigger was Paulie being yanked.

[czarjak]

5. "Russia's a ruse" though?